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James Kim, missing in Oregon, found [dead].
CNN Headline News | 12-6-2006

Posted on 12/06/2006 12:25:00 PM PST by Cagey

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To: Sir Gawain

I'm LOL with you......old timer!


281 posted on 12/06/2006 2:09:15 PM PST by Howlin (44 days to Destin!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Well, I sure as heck couldn't find any! I'll take your word for it though. Now I'm in NM, and the problem would be keeping the entire mountain from becoming a torch. ;)


282 posted on 12/06/2006 2:09:37 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Howlin

Howlin, I can't help myself. Kati and the children will never know his final words. But, they know his final thoughts. The Lord has already blessed his soul. I pray He blesses the family.


283 posted on 12/06/2006 2:09:46 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (Democrats: The marriage of ignorance and arrogance.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Did he leave a message for them, like I read on one of these threads?


284 posted on 12/06/2006 2:10:55 PM PST by Howlin (44 days to Destin!)
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To: Howlin; Sir Gawain

Then maybe you both misinterpreted the comment.


285 posted on 12/06/2006 2:11:18 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Vote other in the poll.)
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To: RSmithOpt

These are good things to know (especially for somebody like me. I'll be spending my first winter near the Rockies).


286 posted on 12/06/2006 2:12:08 PM PST by indcons (indcons - an enemy of islam)
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To: ansel12
I guess it has become a trait of our urban led society. I grew up in the Midwest during a time when the family farms were still the mainstay of this country.

Our society has become desensitized and unaware that there is actually a natural world out there that is governed by laws of natural selection. (i.e. Survival of the Fittest)
287 posted on 12/06/2006 2:13:22 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (MSM Creed: "Truth has no substance until we give it permission!")
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To: Howlin
That's why so many people don't even bother to post anymore.

Well, isn't this rich - just last night, you arrogantly (an incorrectly) labeled a poster a bigot, multiple times, because he questioned a government decision to transplant an African tribe with some very bad values over here to the U.S.

I think you're projecting, Howlin.

288 posted on 12/06/2006 2:13:37 PM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu; Sir Gawain

Sir Gawain is anything except naive.

Some of you newer poster should learn a few things from some of us who have been here a long time.


289 posted on 12/06/2006 2:14:05 PM PST by Howlin (44 days to Destin!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Now I'm in NM, and the problem would be keeping the entire mountain from becoming a torch.

Well, heck, Search & Rescue would find you that way. Fricasseed, yes...

290 posted on 12/06/2006 2:14:37 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Yossarian

I didn't say I wasn't posting. I said a lot of people weren't posting.

A lot of good people can't take the crap some of you hand out 24/7.

And I didn't see anything to make me change my mind about that poster. In case you're forgotten, I'm entitled to my opinion.

Don't like it? Take a damn number.


291 posted on 12/06/2006 2:15:37 PM PST by Howlin (44 days to Destin!)
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To: Yossarian

Appreciate your post showing that it isn't only newcomers who can be jerks. Some of the most extremely rude freepers have 1998 on their pages.....or 2006. Similarly, some of the kindest have 1998 on their pages.....or 2006 (and in between, too).


292 posted on 12/06/2006 2:16:04 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Vote other in the poll.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
...there are many ways to find kindling or start a fire that do not require large ignition sources.

Let's keep in mind that these are people who got rubber to burn. I can only assume they did that with gasoline. Yes, once the fire was started, they should have kept it going no matter what. If the wood is wet, it makes more smoke (good thing), if your coals are good, wet wood will eventually dry out and burn just fine.

We may never know why they didn't keep a fire going. Yes, it would take time to gather it; hard to do with an infant. You would lose heat, burn lots of calories, etc. They did have extra clothes (if they were going to a resort) and I would imagine diapers as well. Someone mentioned ealier that Kati would be going crazy with no diapers. You can change them less frenquently if you have to, every mom has gone too long between diaper changes. In this case you would wait to minimize the number of times the baby is exposed to the cold and reduce the loss of body heat trapped in their clothes.

Much easier to fight diaper rash than hypothermia.

293 posted on 12/06/2006 2:17:05 PM PST by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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To: All

My heart and prayers go out to the family at this very sad news.

Regarding all those who are second-guessing Mr. Kim's decisions, I think it is an unfortunate characteristic of human nature to blame the victims in almost any situation. I think it must help us on a subconscious level to feel more secure as if that can't happen to us because we "know better."

In reality, most Californians don't realize how clueless we are about surviving harsh weather. Neither do city people realize how little they understand about surviving in the wilderness. In modern-day, connected America, I think we also assume that help will always be available quickly.

I read a book earlier this year about a man who hiked out of the Sierra Nevada from a plane crash. He had grown up hunting in the woods of New England, so he understood both winter weather and the wilderness. As a native Californian, I was very surprised by many of the things he did (taking his clothes off during the day to dry in the sun, for one). They seemed very counterintuitive to a California city person. I picture most of us who fit that description figuring it's better to conserve our heat by keeping all our clothes on, even if wet.

May God comfort the Kim family.


294 posted on 12/06/2006 2:17:10 PM PST by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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To: Howlin; Sir Gawain
So, you definitely are misinterpreting the post.

For a hint at an explanation: Miscellanea (bullet one).

Gawain's the paranoid one.

295 posted on 12/06/2006 2:18:27 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Vote other in the poll.)
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To: Howlin
That's why so many people don't even bother to post anymore.

FR has become a bit of a freakshow.

A bunch of morons calling for the "extermination" of all Muslims in their taglines, suggesting that anyone who is concerned about the Iraq War a traitor, etc. etc. etc... It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Is this really the state of our conservative movement today, or has this website just been inundated with bilious idiots? I wonder sometimes.

In any case, it's gotten to the point where the only posts I bother to read are from the very people I most strenuously avoided 4 or 5 years ago.

Go figure.

296 posted on 12/06/2006 2:19:11 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I have been in a similar situation, (Eastern Washington) the area is like a tinder box most of the year. Dry lightening causes more damage that all the echo-terrorists on the planet put together.

I had to move back to the rain forest by the way.....I love the look of lakes, rivers and lots and lots of water!
297 posted on 12/06/2006 2:19:22 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (MSM Creed: "Truth has no substance until we give it permission!")
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To: Howlin

the you in the previous post is you.


298 posted on 12/06/2006 2:19:25 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Vote other in the poll.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Why are you doing that? He clearly said that people show up on these threads, ping their friends to "show up" like it wasn't planned.

It is you who is naive if you don't know about that.

I didn't misrepresent jack.


299 posted on 12/06/2006 2:20:09 PM PST by Howlin (44 days to Destin!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

What?


300 posted on 12/06/2006 2:21:00 PM PST by Howlin (44 days to Destin!)
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