[Omega Man II]

I can tell you this, Chruchill sure as hell didn't say the UK was losing the war during the Blitz. That's the point. Mr. Gates just laid a very big egg with regard to American morale in Iraq; and he just gave the terrorists a reason to cheer.

and Gates did not say we are losing. He said we're neither winning nor losing.

[RexBeach]

"He said we're neither winning or losing."

Boy, that's a morale booster from the new secretary-designate.

[dashing doofus]

"and Gates did not say we are losing. He said we're neither winning nor losing"

Sigh... We are now at the point where the former Iraqi Minister of Information is not looking too bad, by comparison....