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Proposed toll road could drive away truckers
Waco Tribune-Herald ^ | December 4, 2006 | Mike Anderson

Posted on 12/05/2006 9:01:33 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The proposed Trans-Texas Corridor has been touted as a means to ease congestion along Interstate 35 by siphoning off some of the thousands of trucks that use the interstate each day. Unfortunately, proponents of the massive project may have trouble getting some truckers interested in paying a toll to haul their goods across the state.

According to the Texas Department of Transportation, passenger vehicles could pay 15.2 cents per mile and truck drivers 58.5 cents per mile to drive on the 370-mile corridor. The fees were set as part of a master plan for the 1,200-foot-wide tollway, rail and utility corridor developed by international firm Cintra-Zachry. The company is expected to spend $8.8 billion to build the road and pay the state $1.9 billion for the opportunity, according to the plan. The company then would have rights to recoup its expenses and make a profit by charging tolls for 50 years.

But for truck drivers like Joe and Sarah Herschberger, such a toll would add too big a burden to their operating expenses. The husband-and-wife truck-driving team from Pennsylvania, taking a break at a Waco truck stop last week, said they drive across the country on a regular basis and avoid tolls whenever they can.

“We don’t work for a company, we own our rig, so all our expenses come out of our pockets,” Joe said.

“We get paid about $1,500 a month, and most of that goes back into the truck in operating expenses,” Sarah added. “With the cost of gas lately, there’s not much left over for us.”

Some national trucking companies also say that they don’t send their drivers on toll roads and that the Trans-Texas Corridor won’t be different.

“We are not in favor of a toll road. That’s the way my company feels about it,” said Glen Burnett, manager of the Waco service center for the North Carolina-based Old Dominion Freight Line. “If (I-35) is still open and free, we are going to send our trucks on it. Why pay a toll when you can go for free?”

Concern over tolls

Such sentiments have raised concerns for Waco resident Roy Walthall and other members of the Trans-Texas Corridor Advisory Committee. Walthall said he does not consider charging a toll a good solution to reducing I-35 congestion.

“We just keep scratching our heads about it,” Walthall said of the advisory committee. “How are you going to make a profit if nobody will pay to use the thing? They keep saying we do this all over the world and make millions of dollars, but I’m not sure how that’s going to work here.”

Walthall said one solution might be to move more freight by rail lines proposed as part of the corridor. Another would be to build toll roads only as routes around congested areas such as Austin and the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex.

Ken Roberts, spokesman for the highway department’s Waco office, said transportation officials “generally agree” that not all truckers will pay a toll to drive the corridor.

“But if we could get 10 percent to take the Trans-Texas Corridor, we could make a difference,” Roberts said. “Of the 80,000 vehicles a day on I-35, a third of those are trucks. It could be a significant reduction.”

Roberts said some truckers also may avoid the corridor because they need to stop regularly at cities along the interstate as part of their delivery routes. Cross-country truck drivers would benefit more from the planned road, he said.

John Esparza, president and CEO of the Texas Motor Transportation Association, agreed it is not safe to assume trucks will use the corridor in great numbers. But he applauded state officials for trying innovative ways to expand the state’s roadways.

“It’s not about the trucks on the tolls but the passenger vehicles on the tolls that will contribute to the ultimate goal of offering a safe, viable alternative to those who are willing to use it,” Esparza said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cintra; cintrazachry; cuespookymusic; frankperduelives; freeroads; tollroads; tolls; transtexascorridor; transtinfoilcorridor; truckers; ttc; txdot; zachry
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To: Brucifer
If I recall correctly, the toll road operators sued California to keep them from doing maintenance on any free highways that might compete with the toll roads. I think they won. Cintra is not our friend, and neither is Gov RINO.

I think that lawsuit had to do with the non-compete clause for the private SR-91 express lanes. It so screwed up the chances for improvements to SR-91 itself that California was compelled to buy the express lanes from the private owners.

41 posted on 12/05/2006 11:41:24 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

hmmmmmmm.....

I drove for years wildcating freight anywhere i could.

Toll roads exempted me from paying my quarterly road use tax on the amount of miles I paid a toll for.


42 posted on 12/05/2006 11:48:08 AM PST by JoeSixPack1 ( Press "2" to disconnect until you have learned to speak English)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“But if we could get 10 percent to take the Trans-Texas Corridor, we could make a difference,” Roberts said. “Of the 80,000 vehicles a day on I-35, a third of those are trucks. It could be a significant reduction.”


About 2700 trucks traveling the 370 mile route paying .58 cpm. That's about $579,420 per day one way. How long to payoff $8 billion > 14,807 days or 40.5 yrs.


43 posted on 12/05/2006 12:56:53 PM PST by wolfcreek (Suegna como si vivieras para siempre; vive como si fueses a morir hoy.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

For trucks and cars or only cars?

I see plenty of higher-speed roads in surrounding states where there is one speed limit for cars and another for trucks, with the trucks being kept back 5 or 10 MPH.


44 posted on 12/05/2006 1:00:23 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I haven't the faintest idea what was going through the mind of the idiot who wrote the reg. It is absolutely absurd. Let's say that it was due to fungal spores -- fungus in wet hay requires ambient temps to be above, oh, about 60F, and the hay needs time to "ferment" the sugars in the plant material -- like weeks.

The way the highway patrols and the US DOT is interpreting the rule is that hay carried on a truck in a rainstorm better be tarped, or they're going to cite any hay truck driver without a hazmat on his CDL for some pretty stiff fines.

Where rules, regulations and impact on business from regulatory law-making is concerned, the Bush administration has been a complete failure. There isn't a regulation that the Bush administration has rolled back and there's plenty more besides they've heaped on private industry, especially the truck, fuel and ag industry.


45 posted on 12/05/2006 1:04:28 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Ben Ficklin

"Plus, tolls are tax deductible,"


If your talking about how much you can deduct for expenses, that is already set at a cost per mile traveled. Do you have a source saying tolls are tax deductable?


46 posted on 12/05/2006 1:06:52 PM PST by wolfcreek (Suegna como si vivieras para siempre; vive como si fueses a morir hoy.)
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To: wolfcreek

Anybody who has ever cheated on auto expenses knows you can easily squeeze out an extra 100 bucks on parking and tolls.


47 posted on 12/05/2006 1:20:20 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Anybody who has ever cheated on auto expenses knows you can easily squeeze out an extra 100 bucks on parking and tolls.


My business truck has a set deduction amount they allow per miles driven. (less than 50 cents per mile deduction) We don't pay for tolls, yet, in this area and I never pay to park while at work.


I guess you don't have a source?


48 posted on 12/05/2006 1:38:03 PM PST by wolfcreek (Suegna como si vivieras para siempre; vive como si fueses a morir hoy.)
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To: wolfcreek

I think most people take the standard per mile deduction.


49 posted on 12/05/2006 1:44:50 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: wolfcreek
If I were you, I would hire a new accountant
50 posted on 12/05/2006 1:53:35 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: NVDave
I see plenty of higher-speed roads in surrounding states where there is one speed limit for cars and another for trucks, with the trucks being kept back 5 or 10 MPH.

Meeeeeechigan and, I think, Ohio on non-turnpike roads come to mind.

51 posted on 12/05/2006 2:16:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: NVDave
For trucks and cars or only cars?

I haven't heard of any car-only stipulations for the 85 mph limit.

I wonder if the speed will be subject to the Texas nigttime speed limit of 65?

52 posted on 12/05/2006 2:18:59 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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To: JoeSixPack1

this used to be the case the irs closed this loophole

now you pay tolls and fuel taxes....aka....doubledipping


53 posted on 12/05/2006 3:48:03 PM PST by jneesy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Roughly a 60.00 toll for a round trip to San Antonio from Houston.

That is a non-starter. Won't happen.


54 posted on 12/05/2006 4:29:07 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (DE)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Wet hay (as in, you were hauling hay and it decided to rain) is now considered "hazardous material." WHAAAAAAAA??? Because of fungal spores, perhaps?

no combustible material.

55 posted on 12/05/2006 4:44:35 PM PST by righthand man (WE'RE SOUTHERN AND PROUD OF IT)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


56 posted on 12/05/2006 10:34:19 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ben Ficklin

"If I were you, I would hire a new accountant"


Thanks, I'll discuss this with him. Like I said, our tollbooths are not active yet and parking is not an issue in my job.


57 posted on 12/06/2006 4:34:10 AM PST by wolfcreek (Suegna como si vivieras para siempre; vive como si fueses a morir hoy.)
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To: 1rudeboy
LOL Politicians in Texas can't be that stupid. Can they?

Never underestimate politicians' capacity for stupidity!

...and -- if they are liberals -- count on it...

58 posted on 12/06/2006 4:47:00 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: dirtboy
Ohio has had this quandary for years. Truckers are asked to pay tolls on the Ohio Turnpike, but can use secondary roads or stretches of free Interstate for much if not all of their transits of the state. Recently the turnpike had to lower tolls to lure trucks off the secondary highways where they were congesting traffic. The issue is one of elementary economics, but the 'government' keeps trying to fool Mother Nature..
59 posted on 12/06/2006 6:29:59 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: nomorelurker

I'd pay a toll to get AWAY from the trucks. I-70 through Missouri is the worst. They go over the speed limit, have weights that have contributed to the destruction of the road, and almost every fatal accident on I-70 involves a semi. I'd be glad to stay out of their way, use a better road and deal with less traffic and greater visibility.


60 posted on 12/06/2006 6:38:13 PM PST by MHT
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