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Moderate Islam May Be Key To Winning War on Terror (Daniel Pipes alert!)
NYSun.com ^ | 12/5/2006 | DANIEL PIPES

Posted on 12/05/2006 7:15:08 AM PST by Dark Skies

An effective counterterrorism strategy must focus on the fact that terrorism by Muslims in the name of Islam presents the strategic threat today to civilized peoples, whether Muslim or non-Muslim.

On the low end, this threat involves lone individuals seized by the Sudden Jihad Syndrome who unpredictably set off on a murder spree. At the high end, it involves an outlaw organization like Hamas running the quasi-governmental Palestinian Authority, or even Al Qaeda's efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction. In all, were terrorism by Muslims halted, this would be a major advance toward winning what some call World War IV.

Can this be achieved?

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: pipes
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1 posted on 12/05/2006 7:15:12 AM PST by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

Placemarker for later reading.


2 posted on 12/05/2006 7:16:25 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Dark Skies

Cool! So first we need to create this mythical "moderate Islam" and then we are all set! /s


3 posted on 12/05/2006 7:17:09 AM PST by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el ingles)
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To: Dark Skies
An effective counterterrorism strategy must focus on the fact that terrorism by Muslims in the name of Islam presents the strategic threat today to civilized peoples, whether Muslim or non-Muslim.
This has been the exact view of the Bush Administration at least since 9/11. It's really rather obvious.

-Eric

4 posted on 12/05/2006 7:17:56 AM PST by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: Dark Skies

"Moderate" Islam does not exist. The solution lies in exposing
the falsehood of Islam and the true character of its founder.


5 posted on 12/05/2006 7:19:16 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Dark Skies


Radical Islam is an insane murder cult.
Moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.


6 posted on 12/05/2006 7:19:26 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Ingtar

So first we need to create this mythical "moderate Islam" and then we are all set! /s
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Yes, "moderate Islam" is an excellent OXYMORON.


7 posted on 12/05/2006 7:21:47 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Dark Skies

What a load of Korap.


8 posted on 12/05/2006 7:23:16 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: E Rocc
This has been the exact view of the Bush Administration at least since 9/11. It's really rather obvious childish, silly, and has no basis in reality.

Fixed that for ya.

L

9 posted on 12/05/2006 7:24:36 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: Vaquero

In Britain, when John Reid asked the moderate muslims to help identify terrorists by keeping a close eye on members of their community, the moderates essentially said NO...they said it was like spying on members of their own family.


10 posted on 12/05/2006 7:24:41 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Ingtar
"There may be moderate muslims. But there is no moderate islam" Ibn Waqid.

L

11 posted on 12/05/2006 7:25:23 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: Dark Skies

We dont have time to find the moderates my suspicion is they
are afraid of their more numerous radical muslim brethren.


12 posted on 12/05/2006 7:25:53 AM PST by claptrap (We've found a Witch can we burn her?)
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To: EagleUSA

I've been at war with the fire ants in my yard for 6 years. I do not waste time hunting down individual "bad ants". I poison ground they inhabit. I have peace thru superior firepower, but it does require periodic application of ant killer to keep them under control. 'Nuff said.


13 posted on 12/05/2006 7:26:46 AM PST by Gunny Gene
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To: Dark Skies

While there may be moderate muslims, there is no moderate Islam. [Mark Steyn]

We're not yet ready to take what must be the inevitable step: The destruction of Islam as a viable religion.

Statesmen, due to the political necessity of the moment, will continue to say that Islam writ large is not the problem and some will even believe it. I've even said so myself before I started studying Islam in greater depth.

Islam-- mainstream, ordinary, plain vanilla Islam-- is incompatible with modern life. It is irreconcilable and unreformable. To reform it is to destroy it. That's where we are going and it is not going to be fun.


14 posted on 12/05/2006 7:28:14 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Lurker

Heh. I think you're right about that quote. I said it was Steyn and that must be because he quoted it in his book.


15 posted on 12/05/2006 7:29:39 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Dark Skies
"Moderate Islam May Be Key To Winning War on Terror (Daniel Pipes alert!)"

I like Daniel Pipes, but he's wrong about there being a 'moderate' islam. The only truly moderate muslims are those who don't really know the koran and don't practice their faith, who are muslims by birth only. But to those who study and obey their sanguinary koran, the word 'moderate' does not exist.
islam should be feared by everyone, it is evil incarnate.

16 posted on 12/05/2006 7:30:57 AM PST by TheCrusader
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To: zimdog; nuconvert; MikefromOhio

Islamophobes turning on Daniel Pipes (of all people) ping.


17 posted on 12/05/2006 7:31:06 AM PST by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: Ingtar

There is no such thing as moderate Islam...just Muslims who aren't down with blowing things & people up in the name of Allah....but are afraid to criticize the actions of their skewed brethern because unmoderated Islam.


18 posted on 12/05/2006 7:31:23 AM PST by brooklyn dave (Dhimmis better not be Dhummis!!!!------or else!!!)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
I think what Pipes is doing is teasing the problem into its separate parts. IMO, Pipes knows that muslim community isn't going to help. But by placing the burden on it, the non-muslim world becomes acutely aware that the moderates as a whole will do NOTHING to help.

That said, there will always be individual muslims who help tremendously. IIRC, one of the people who gave a note to the flight attendent in the "flying imams" situation in Minneapolis was a muslim who overheard and understood the threatening comments made by the imams.

19 posted on 12/05/2006 7:33:36 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Dark Skies
One problem is that a significant portion of the US does not see this as a major war. Would we have had any problems with infiltrating Nazi organizations in an attempt to split them apart? Would we have had any moral doubts about making the Germans question their Nazi leaders? Would we have sent propaganda via any means available to try to get the people to not support their leaders?

How about the Cold War. Other than a few Reds in the government, was there any question about supporting Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty? Supporting organizations like Solidarity by providing them with copying equipment so they can spread the truth? How about beaming Radio Marti into Cuba?

Are we doing the same thing in the Mid East? Are we funding non-radical Mullahs so they can distribute their message of "don't kill the infidels"? Is there a Radio Free Arabia or a Radio Free Iran? Are there American web sites promoting the truth of what is happening in the War on Terrorism? If the CIA were to secretly fund organizations trying to push secular humanism in the Mid East to break Islam's hold on the people, could we expect to keep it secret? Or would the New York Times (or Pat Robertson either) publish it immediately? Some of these questions can't really be answered because if they are being done right we wouldn't be able to find the details, but at the bare minimum we should be pumping the airwaves and internet full of propaganda.

One problem we have is that our enemies and allies are in many ways indistinguishable. In truth there isn't much difference between Iran and Saudi Arabia in ideology or funding of external terrorism, but one is evil and the other is a close friend. It would be like having two Nazi countries in Europe with one as an ally in WW II and not being able to use an ideology as a reason to fight them.

20 posted on 12/05/2006 7:39:43 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Hey Kerry, What part of showing heels and ass is a winning strategy in Iraq?)
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