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BA passengers share first class cabin with dead traveller
Daily Mail UK ^ | 23:01pm on 4th December 2006 | RAY MASSEY

Posted on 12/04/2006 7:53:24 PM PST by james500

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To: Kozak
Did they want the body moved to coach, or did they want it jettisoned out of the cabin?

They wanted it kept in First Class, and their shock and horror duly noted in all the papers, so they would be in good position to sue BA for the mental anguish they suffered when the airline failed to prohibit this man from dying whilst on board an aircraft.

-ccm

41 posted on 12/04/2006 9:36:46 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: TaMoDee

I'd like to pass away quietly in my sleep like Uncle Bill, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.


42 posted on 12/04/2006 9:38:51 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

"I was hoping someone looking to be offended would click on this thread, thanks."

I don't think anyone was clicking on the thread and looking to be offended. They clicked on the thread to read the report. The offending part came after.


43 posted on 12/04/2006 9:40:42 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: james500; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; ...

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.


44 posted on 12/04/2006 9:43:16 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Ditter

"99"? Why so young?


45 posted on 12/04/2006 9:48:33 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: Richard Kimball
If the bladder is full, they'll void. If not, they don't.

I'll agree with your statement. As a twenty year vet of healthcare I've performed CPR probably thousands of times. It's not that often that the deceased voids and defecates.

About six weeks ago I suffered cardiac arrest while in the hospital. After 6-7 minutes of CPR a normal rhythm was established and I came out of the ordeal wthout the need to change my underwear.

46 posted on 12/04/2006 10:08:59 PM PST by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: metmom

You lose control of ALL sphincters when you die - that means no bladder control, no rectal control - to put it bluntly. Evey muscle in the body relaxes.

I need to check Snopes.com on this one. I've read of other hoaxes that sound an awful lot like this one.

This "report" has been verified, yes?


47 posted on 12/04/2006 10:17:15 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (What happened to "Able Danger" and any testimony by Col Schaffer?)
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To: All; Esther Ruth; Rokke; F15Eagle; bitt

From the original article:

"First Class travellers on a British Airways transatlantic flight were horrified when they were forced to sit next to a dead body for three hours."

The passangers weren't "horrified" at all. This is a media report that relies upon Queen's English.

Look, somebody dies on the plane, what're you going to do with the body? Stick 'em in an overhead compartment? Burial at sea? Move 'em to the rear covered in some shroud? They boarded with a first class ticket, they land in the same seat.

Suppose that somebody died in coach and they landed stretched out in first class: the airline could hit up the bereaved for the difference in ticket, eh?

Cynicism and jaded only goes so far before I become repulsed utterly.


48 posted on 12/04/2006 10:25:10 PM PST by raygun (Whenever I see U.N. blue helmets I feel like laughing and puking at the same time.)
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To: Eagles6

I'd rather slip "quietly" into the hereafter, and not have to listen to all the screaming passangers of the Jumbo I'm driving, ya know? That's why I'd keep the intercom OFF during the flight.


49 posted on 12/04/2006 10:31:21 PM PST by raygun (Whenever I see U.N. blue helmets I feel like laughing and puking at the same time.)
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To: All
This story reminds me of an old Alaska story told to me after I had returned to the lower '48 from a long spell (and a couple of winters) in Fairbanks, '74-76.

A USCG Warrant Officer I knew well spun this true tale:

The Warrant and a YN1 were on recruiting duty in Alaska. Hired a private charter in Fairbanks to fly them to Bethel and another point further west.

The two of them showed up on time...colder than one could even imagine...still dark, of course. Jack Stallings, the pilot (who I knew personally, so I know this story to be true) asked the Warrant Officer if he would like to sit in the co-pilot's seat for the flight. He did so.

Aircraft airborne. heading west. Still pitch dark. Yeoman asked if they would like a cup of coffee from the large thermos aboard...and asked the name of the other passenger "asleep" in the small passenger compartment, as the YN1 was going to offer him a cup of coffee, as well, when he awakened.

Jack laughed, and advised the Yeoman that the other passenger had been DEAD FOR TWO WEEKS; stiff as a board, and was heading out to his home in Bethel -- to be buried in the Spring, after the thaw. **S**

True story. Warrant officer was Richard Hamel, W-4, USCG.
Event occurred in 1979. And, I knew Jack Stallings, the bush pilot, from my days up there in Fairbanks with Bechtel Corp.

Have a great week, fellow Freepers.
50 posted on 12/04/2006 10:31:43 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: politicalwit

Congratulations on making it back. It changes your outlook on life to come out after that, doesn't it? Hope you make a full recovery.


51 posted on 12/04/2006 10:36:45 PM PST by Richard Kimball (I get no respect. I went to the proctologist and he put his finger in my mouth - Rodney Dangerfield)
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To: raygun
Look, somebody dies on the plane, what're you going to do with the body? Stick 'em in an overhead compartment? Burial at sea? Move 'em to the rear covered in some shroud? They boarded with a first class ticket, they land in the same seat.

Actually, he had a Club World (business class) ticket. He got upgraded.

52 posted on 12/04/2006 10:42:16 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Issaquahking
maybe I've just had a little bit too much death close at hand, but I don't find all the cutsie comments about a dying, or dead person funny. Watching loved ones die isn't fun, it's harder when you do everything you can to save them, and they still go.

Amen, brother. Amen.

I never knew people could ask such blatantly stupid and uncaring questions.

God help me if my time to leave this earth is on a plane. Apparently the other passengers will think that I've been carelessly diregarding their comfort level.

How typical that the British were more concerned about the movie than that one among them had died. Stiff pecker (equivalent to our stiff upper lip, don't think I was being porno with that statement) and all that.

No wonder my forebears left that sorry Island and came to America. And thank God they did, as early as they did. I just don't get the "Brits".

53 posted on 12/04/2006 10:42:48 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (What happened to "Able Danger" and any testimony by Col Schaffer?)
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To: TruthNtegrity; Issaquahking
How typical that the British were more concerned about the movie than that one among them had died.

You think that's bad. Back in the late eighties, a British Midlands 737-400 crashed after the pilots shut off the wrong engine after one of the engines caught of fire. The passengers noticed that the pilots mentioned the wrong engine, but did not try to get that information back to the pilots. I don't think Americans would just sit there and not try to inform the pilot that the wrong engine was shut down.

Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia.

Shutting down the wrong engine

The captain (Kevin Hunt) believed the right engine was malfunctioning due to the smell of smoke, because in previous Boeing 737 variants, bleed air from the engines for the air conditioning system was taken from this engine. However, starting with the Boeing 737-400 variant, Boeing redesigned the system so both engines fed it. Several cabin staff and passengers also noticed that the left engine had a stream of unburnt fuel igniting in the jet exhaust, but this information was not passed to the flight crew, because they thought that the pilots knew what they were doing.

Besides the unfortunate coincidence of the smoke disappearing when the autothrottle was disengaged to shut down the right engine, another problem may have been that pilots had got into the habit of disregarding the readings of vibration warning meters; early ones were unreliable but the flying crew of G-OBME do not seem to have been aware that newer ones were more reliable. The dials were also much smaller than the previous model of 737 that they had most of their experience on. The pilots had received no simulator training on the new model; no simulator for the 737-400 existed in the UK at that time.


54 posted on 12/04/2006 10:57:41 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Ditter
Ya, I want to go out at age 110, in bed,











shot by a jealous husband.....
55 posted on 12/04/2006 11:10:08 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: metmom
I heard that you lose bladder control when you die.

****

Shocking!

:-)

56 posted on 12/05/2006 3:24:23 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: the_Watchman

My paternal grandmothers sister, my great aunt died at age 116 in remarkably good health, she was the oldest person in the US at the time. I take after that side of the family, so I guess 110 is possible. Both sides of my family are long lived except my mothers side lives a long time in poor health, except for the WW2 generation who smoked. That didn't live as long as the others and died with breathing problems.


57 posted on 12/05/2006 5:31:49 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Eagles6

LOL


58 posted on 12/05/2006 6:15:11 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: politicalwit

Whoa ... glad you are still with us, and with your dignity intact no less!


59 posted on 12/05/2006 6:16:38 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: Issaquahking
I don't find all the cutsie comments about a dying, or dead person funny.

Hide the bong, guys. Dad's home.

60 posted on 12/05/2006 6:20:22 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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