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Teen Murderer Says Jail Is Too Hard, Appeals Sentence
WFTV-TV 9 ^ | December 4, 2006 | WFTV

Posted on 12/04/2006 3:34:17 PM PST by FreedomCalls

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- One of the teenagers responsible for beating a Holly Hill homeless man to death asked a judge to reduce his 22-year prison sentence Monday. Warren Messner and three other teens pled guilty to killing the man because they were bored, but Messner said prison is too hard.

Messner is a big boy. He was 15 at the time he was brought into the woods to see the homeless man his friends had been beating. Even at that young age, he outweighed the victim, Michael Roberts, by 200 pounds when he jumped on his chest, crushing his ribcage. Roberts died.

"Did you feel bad when you are doing it?" Messner was asked during questioning.

"Not really, no," he replied.

He didn't feel bad then, but he does now. He has been in juvenile detention for eight months, locked in a small cell and occasionally allowed to go to class.

Messner and his attorney said he has already learned his lesson and is ready to go home to help others. ...

"He's not getting the mental health, the schooling. He's not getting anything, anything but locked in a cell all day long," Lori Messner [his mother] said.

The judge and the state both argued that being deprived services and being locked away is precisely the point of prison. Warren Messner will spend the next 22 years in prison without the chance for parole.

(Excerpt) Read more at wftv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: boohoohoo; boostinkinghoo; bootyboy; bubba; crime; crymeariver; daytona; florida; hollyhill; homeless; iwantmymommy; jail; juvenile; mybutthurts; prison; psycho; unfairwhaaaaaaaaaa
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To: FreedomCalls

The little turd should have been hanged by the neck until dead.

He got off light and I, for one, enjoy his sniveling and hope that he continues to suffer.


101 posted on 12/04/2006 7:07:51 PM PST by LibKill (ENOUGH! Take the warning labels off everything and let Saint Darwin do his job.)
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To: FreedomCalls

"I'm bored here in prison. Can I go home now?"

"Oh, you're bored?! Ok. You can dig ditches or pound rocks or even clean toilets with toothbrushes. We have PLENTY to keep you busy with... Suck it up, punk!"


102 posted on 12/04/2006 7:12:00 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) "If God is not, everything is permitted." Fyodor Dostoyevsky)
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To: Spok

That quote says it all don't it ?


103 posted on 12/04/2006 7:51:00 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Graybeard58

Judging from the pitcha, I'm guessing he's not missing many "social opportunities" in prison. What a buncha of loozas.


104 posted on 12/04/2006 7:55:00 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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To: festus

"People unclear on the concept."


105 posted on 12/04/2006 7:59:36 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

Nope. Doesn't work for me. His victims are still dead.


106 posted on 12/04/2006 8:02:21 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MEDIA + ENEMY = ENEMEDIA!)
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To: FreedomCalls

Enjoy your stay. Just don't drop the soap in the shower....

107 posted on 12/04/2006 8:05:58 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: FreedomCalls

"He's not getting anything..."

Well, Lori, that's exactly the point, you and your husband failed to provide your kid a good upbringing with discipline and the ability to form a life plan; now, he has gone off the rails. Who, Lori, is at fault here?


108 posted on 12/04/2006 8:23:50 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Spok

OMG, does this mean he doesn't even have a PS3?

The horror!


109 posted on 12/04/2006 8:32:37 PM PST by GnuHere
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To: FreedomCalls

He should be grateful that he's not in a Chinese prison. He wouldn't last long if his organs were still good.


110 posted on 12/04/2006 8:33:55 PM PST by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: pray4liberty

Prison is for punishment, they are just starting to get him ready for the big house. He will make soneone a good wife.


111 posted on 12/04/2006 8:43:44 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: RVN Airplane Driver; USF; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado

Are you really a friggin' ignorant sort?

Or do you simply play one on the internet?

Please go back and try to read my post, and try to wrap your brain cells around my words.

I never advocated releasing the young punk - I said clearly that LIFE IMPRISONMENT would be a more just punishment!

As it is he ONLY GOT 22 YEARS - which I strongly find fault with, as too lenient...

Like it or not {I don't at all} it seems, absent offenses committed in prison, he WILL be released in 22 years or less.

We had all better pray he can be "salvaged", or he will remorselessly victimize someone else.

Nor did I advocate releasing Berkowitz.

I would NEVER repeat NEVER advocate anything like that

I would hardly characterize him as a "good ole boy" under any circumstances.

I referred to him as "...a lost and evil soul walking amongst us", and I think that is pretty unequivocal in nature.

The fact that his soul may have been redeemed by Christ does not mitigate his sentence one IOTA in my belief - {or his}, and whether he is saved or not isn't even open to discussion.

Neither of us are G_d, and I doubt either of us can walk on water, so drop the dumb-a$$ posturing, and rudely inappropriate comments about releasing him into the arms of my family or anyone else's {I strongly support him remaining in prison without reservation or qualification for the rest of his natural life!}

- frankly, postS like yours are {let's all finish the sentence together, kids!} - void of real thought!

Don't enter a battle of wits when insufficiently armed.

A.A.C.


112 posted on 12/04/2006 8:48:41 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

Ouch! Don't you ever get really angry with me, promise?


113 posted on 12/04/2006 9:06:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MEDIA + ENEMY = ENEMEDIA!)
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To: FreedomCalls

Jail is too hard. Ok, simple solution. Put him on Old Sparky.


114 posted on 12/04/2006 9:08:26 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Jail is too hard. Ok, simple solution. Put him on Old Sparky.

Since he was a juvenile when he committed the crime he is not eligible for the death penalty.

115 posted on 12/04/2006 9:29:43 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Pity.


116 posted on 12/04/2006 9:38:10 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Graybeard58

Messner, a big Mark Volman of the Turtles wannabe...

117 posted on 12/04/2006 9:41:17 PM PST by Eddie01 (please let me know if I missed anything)
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To: FreedomCalls

This kid is so pathetic. I almost feel bad for laughing at him.


118 posted on 12/04/2006 10:25:39 PM PST by TNdandelion
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To: AmericanArchConservative
It is obvious you fancy yourself of superior intellect...just for the record I find fault with that conclusion...particularly after re-reading what you wrote and my comments....then of course the intellectual spewing that you followed up with.....certainly made a strong argument for my conclusion!!!
119 posted on 12/05/2006 4:27:23 AM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..POW input)
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To: marajade
"That's a lie. It would be an outright violation of that youth's civil rights to deny him an education, even if he was imprisoned."

Just because he is only occasionally allowed to go to class doesn't mean he isn't taught in his cell. He probably has disciplinary problems that prohibit him from attending class regularly.
120 posted on 12/05/2006 7:51:12 AM PST by monday
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