[oldenuff2no]

"Newsflash: Gang members and other assorted thugs are not just indigenous to Los Angeles, they are spreading out all over the country. You are not automatically safe from them because you avoid Los Angeles, Detroit or Chicago. They are everywhere, small towns, big towns, and in between towns. It's not a question of you staying out of their places, they'll come to yours."


I don't assume anything when it comes to the safety of myself and/or my family. We are in an area that has pot growers hidden throughout the foothills and mountains. These gardens are maintained and guarded by armed illegal gang members.
We find two or three a month and drop a dime on them.
I agree with you, they are nasty people who are capable of doing much harm. They got my respect but I keep riding and hunting and they keep going to jail.
I travel the mountains with my horses mules and big dogs. There are so many noses and ears with me that nothing gets close to us that isn't detected. That is not an accident!

Some people still don't get it. When your out there all by yourself no one is going to be coming too soon and your safety and welfare are in your own hands. When you blow it there are no excuses you either get it done or it goes south on you.
Good people screw up all the time. It sounds like Mr Kim was a great guy but he was in over his head, he wasn't prepared and he didn't make good decisions.

[woodbutcher]

I find smug people to me the most obnoxious of all.

They never make a mistake, never have and never will.

They have their directions directly from God and are always right.

They are pretty hard to take.

I wonder how all of those street smart Mafia guys end up full of little round holes?

They are prepared. Have body guards, sleep with one eye open, etc.

The real facts are that there is no one, unless he lives in a cocoon that no one can enter without thorough examination, as does the President and Vice President, that can not be hit, or conned or robbed.

There are so many ways, I won't bother because smug people never get it.

But I am curious as to what you mean when you "drop a dime" on them.

[tubebender]

There were millions of people driving Thanksgiving weekend a hell of a lot less prepared than the Kims...

[Mjaye]

We find two or three a month and drop a dime on them.
I agree with you, they are nasty people who are capable of doing much harm. They got my respect but I keep riding and hunting and they keep going to jail. I travel the mountains with my horses mules and big dogs. There are so many noses and ears with me that nothing gets close to us that isn't detected. <<<<<<<<<<

Your pot growers aren't even the ones I'm talking about, but if you are alerting authorities and still out there riding around, best of luck.

It's pointless to debate the Kim situation, the point has obviously been missed. I sincerely hope that all of you who claim you would have never been caught in a situation like this don't have to eat your words.

[woodbutcher]

You mention hunting with dogs.

I like to hunt. What kind of game do you hunt?

Do you hunt in the snow?

What is the game?

Do the dogs hunt it up for you or are they just for companionship?

When you go out in this kind of weather, what do you carry? How many mules does it take? I assume you camp overnight.

Do you go on those trails like I have heard about in Colorado where the trail is about 3' wide on the face of cliffs, where a horse can't even turn around and most people ride mules because you can't push them off the edge whereas horses have been known to panic and fall?

There is a guy in this town who got his name in the paper that way.

Do you have Elk?