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To: surfer

This is from a post on Joe Duck...thought some of you would like to see it.

for those who questioned him leaving the car, I saw this:
Link to full story below.

“It is easy to say now that Kim should have stayed with the car. But back in 1995, a salesman named DeWitt Finley was trapped on Bear Camp Road. He got his truck into a snowdrift and realized he wasn’t going to get it out. The locals say Finley, a healthy man of 56, probably could have walked out on the road pretty easily.

But Finley was a believer. He was convinced that God would save him. For nine weeks he sat in his truck, meticulously marking off the days and writing in his diary.

In the spring, a couple of teenagers found his body. He’d starved to death in his truck.

Up in the mountains, they still say Finley was foolish for what he did. He could have made other choices, they say, better ones, and he might have saved himself.

In a way, that is true of James Kim. And if it makes you feel better about yourself to criticize him, go ahead. But don’t be surprised if no one wants to hear it.

He tried to do the best he could for his family. Trapped, cold and desperate, he had no way of knowing that help was on the way. He didn’t know that satellite technology was “pinging” the sound of their cell phone and that someone was still working on pinpointing the signal. He didn’t know that turning off the road would be a dead end.

He pulled on his jacket, kissed his wife and children (does anyone doubt that?), and struck out toward hope. That’s what dads do. ”

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/08/MNG75MRTTA1.DTL


1,357 posted on 12/08/2006 12:50:19 PM PST by surfer
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To: surfer

Thanks, Surfer, we should just direct the naysayers to that story and save ourselves the debate. If he encountered a bear going toward his family, I think he could have gone off course to divert it. There are so many ifs and maybes, and none of them in my mind point to him doing anything remotely wrong.


1,358 posted on 12/08/2006 1:50:00 PM PST by Mjaye (Some folks close their mouth only long enough to change feet.)
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To: surfer

See my post #1359 proving conclusively that if he had used the higher ground next to the car, the added 1270 feet (over about a mile or so) would have put him within 10 feet (maybe better) of being in line-of-sight of the Wolf Peak cell tower 20 miles away near Glendale and the call would have clearly gone through. Mr. Kim did not do that.

In 1995, I climbed just a couple hundred feet from a river valley to increase a cell signal from barely detectable to useable and call for help. If you have a cellphone, use the highest available ground to try it. A tech guy should have thought of that. (I'm a tech guy too.)


1,360 posted on 12/08/2006 2:22:47 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: surfer
ut Finley was a believer. He was convinced that God would save him. For nine weeks he sat in his truck, meticulously marking off the days and writing in his diary


I can not resist. I just have to tell a joke I heard years ago.

This black man got caught in a flood. Water got higher and higher and he eventually ended up on the roof of his house, completely surrounded by water.

Older black people are very religious, so he knew the Lord would not let anything bad happen to him.

So he is sitting there on the roof and some guys come by in a boat and ask him if he needs help. "No, no", he says. "The Lord is looking after me"

The water gets a little higher after they leave, but he is not afraid. The Lord will look after him.

In a little while, a helicopter comes along and they yell on the loudspeaker, asking him if he needs help. He waves them off. The Lord will look after him.

Well, the water gets worse and worse and finally it washed the house away and he drowns.

So he gets to heaven and the first thing he does is ask the Lord "O Lord, why did you let me drown? I was so sure you would take care of me?"

The Lord replies "You fool! I sent a boat for you and you turned him down, so I sent a helicopter for you and you turned him down. I did all I could."

Sometimes you have to know when it is time to take whatever chance you have.
1,362 posted on 12/08/2006 2:35:12 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: surfer
Thanks for all the links Surfer. Some new information there but at this stage and so much wrong information prior I ask myself, are these bits any more true than what we heard for a week.

The Saab had four wheel drive...
James encountered a bear in the road...
Kati bundled up the kids and stuck out just prior to being found...
James died of hypothermia two days earlier...
James may not have died of hypothermia two days earlier...


There were other new bits but I didn't copy them
1,367 posted on 12/08/2006 4:36:42 PM PST by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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