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Congress Open to Passing Bill on Immigration (Citizenship for 20 million illegals!)
The Washington Times ^ | December 4, 2006 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 12/04/2006 6:58:29 AM PST by kellynla

Congress will approve an immigration bill that will grant citizenship rights to most of the 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens in the U.S. after Democrats take control next month, predict both sides on Capitol Hill. While Republicans have been largely splintered on the issue of immigration reform, Democrats have been fairly unified behind the principle that the illegals currently in the country should get citizenship rights without having to first leave the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; bushbash; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa
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To: Luis Gonzalez

...but who's counting, right?


461 posted on 12/04/2006 3:15:13 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
"I'm more of a Constitutionalist."

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

462 posted on 12/04/2006 3:15:52 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: taxed2death
14 BILLION MEXICANS ENTERED THE US ILLEGALLY LAST YEAR!!!!!
463 posted on 12/04/2006 3:16:40 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Back where they came from. Native born, give me a break, what's this mean, anchor babies? Anchor babies are not citizens, and the sooner someone starts interpreting Article 14 correctly, the better.


464 posted on 12/04/2006 3:16:52 PM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: FReepapalooza
Native born, give me a break, what's this mean, anchor babies?

I think he was referring to the 100% 'Murricans who are on welfare.

465 posted on 12/04/2006 3:17:46 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: FReepapalooza

Are you making the argument that there are no native-born welfare recipients that are NOT immigrants or anchor babies?


466 posted on 12/04/2006 3:18:11 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Deported alien parents take their US-born children with them to foreign countries all the time.


467 posted on 12/04/2006 3:18:26 PM PST by RodgerD (Don't Abolish America. Defeat the Bush-Pelosi Mexico-Merger Scheme)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Be careful, according to taxed2death, 100 out of every 20 people out there is an illegal alien.


468 posted on 12/04/2006 3:19:29 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: RodgerD

Clinton's immigration bill took away (nearly) all Federal welfare aid from illegal aliens.

Sadly, it did very little to take natural-born citizens off the government teat.


469 posted on 12/04/2006 3:21:24 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: RodgerD

P.S. Illegal aliens dump as much as $7 billion a year into the Federal coffers in the way untraceable SS payments.


470 posted on 12/04/2006 3:24:00 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Clinton's immigration bill took away (nearly) all Federal welfare aid from illegal aliens.

Sadly, it did very little to take natural-born citizens off the government teat.

I guess my going to the dentist was a waste of time. Didn't fix my neighbor's teeth.

471 posted on 12/04/2006 3:26:32 PM PST by RodgerD (Don't Abolish America. Defeat the Bush-Pelosi Mexico-Merger Scheme)
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To: lasereye
I never quite understood why the immigration issue hurt the Republicans as badly as it did, when it was the Democrats who were just about unanimously on the more controversial side of the issue.

because the MSM never reported on it... this helped keep the sheeple (majority of the country) in the dark.
472 posted on 12/04/2006 3:29:59 PM PST by fhlh ("you using the whole fist there, Doc?")
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To: Luis Gonzalez
P.S. Illegal aliens dump as much as $7 billion a year into the Federal coffers in the way untraceable SS payments.

Crime, chaos, failed schools, closed hospitals, degenerating language, culture, national unity, Democrat victories...and $23 dollars for each of us!

Thanks for cluing me in. Now I support continued massive third world immigration and toleration of illegals.

473 posted on 12/04/2006 3:34:01 PM PST by RodgerD (Don't Abolish America. Defeat the Bush-Pelosi Mexico-Merger Scheme)
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To: Mo1

Mo,just curious about your Hispanic friend and I ask this question because I have a couple of Latinos I work with whom I am pretty close to.
Is there a level of discomfort in discussing illegal immigration with them?I find my Hispanic friends often make jokes about the corruption in Mexico and about aliens tunneling over the border.Yet on the other hand they seem very proud to be of Mexican heritage and are generally sympathetic to the"Chicano"cause.I have this feeling I have to walk a careful line with them on the issue because for them the issue is not abstract,its personal.
Its like discussing the Constitutionality of Civil Rights Laws with a black person.To me as a white person,I can make some theoretical argument about how the Federal Government may have exceeded its jurisdiction in 1964.To a black person its like,"F Constitutionality.Do you want me and my family to have to go to the back of the bus again?"
Things get ugly and objective discussion is silenced.


474 posted on 12/04/2006 3:39:01 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: texastoo
Great thread!

Beats doing useful things.

475 posted on 12/04/2006 3:42:12 PM PST by RodgerD (Don't Abolish America. Defeat the Bush-Pelosi Mexico-Merger Scheme)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"We have record of one million four hundred thousand being stopped at the border last year alone..."

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From the article:

Our Border Patrol claims it has apprehended or turned back at least 25% of those who try to illegally enter this country.

http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/tsegel/2005/ts_04251.shtml


...again, do the math. Seems like my 6000+ a week figure was actually low.


476 posted on 12/04/2006 3:47:37 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"P.S. Illegal aliens dump as much as $7 billion a year into the Federal coffers in the way untraceable SS payments."

Big effing deal.

From the article:

"Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday."

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041206-102115-6766r.htm


477 posted on 12/04/2006 3:50:31 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

The problem with those articles is that the errors are easily spotted by anyone with any kind of a bookkeeping background.

There are no one-sided entries into a ledger, but these articles never bother to calculate the billions (quite likely many, many times the amount of the cost) of dollars saved by California consumers via the reduction in prices brought about by the illegal aliens.

If there were no benefits to their being here, they wouldn't be here.

People get so caught up in the hyperbole and demagoguery behind this issue, that they fail to see the most obvious point of all...coming here benefits both the illegal, and industry, and consequently the consumer.


478 posted on 12/04/2006 3:58:20 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: taxed2death
Sorry...I forgot...

14 BILLION MEXICANS ENTERED THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY LAST YEAR!!!!

479 posted on 12/04/2006 3:59:42 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: taxed2death

You posted that tens of thousands (maybe one hundred thousand) got in for every one apprehended.

Can you stick to your own (bad) facts?


480 posted on 12/04/2006 4:02:14 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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