[Tenacious 1]

http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html

If ever you find yourself in a debate about global warming, be prepared. Here is a show stopper for most (that is if you are debating anyone with an incling of scientific intelligence, otherwise, don't waste your time).

Ask a Human Caused Global Warming activist if they know what the number 1 greenhouse gas on the planet is. After they tell you Carbon Dioxide, ask them if this is why "greenhouses" stay so warm. Next point out to them that plastic is not a very good insulator and ask them what the climate is in a greenhouse. Have them describe it. If they leave out that it is always very humid, help them.

Folks, the number 1 greenhouse gas in our atmosphere is water vapor. In fact, water vapor makes up 98% of our atmosphere and is, by far and away, the source of the earths insulation. See the link above to find out how much of the earth's "greenhouse gasses" are comprised of Carboon Dioxide when measured along with water vapor.

It is less than 1/2 of 1%. Of that 1/2 of 1%, only part of it is "manmade." Most of that 1/2 of 1% comes from natural causes, like the ocean.

BTW - Carbon Dioxide makes the oceans flourish as plankton thrives on it. The more CO2 in the ocean, the more life....so goes the circle of life.

Good luck!

[Mr170IQ]

> In fact, water vapor makes up 98% of our atmosphere ...

I don't know what planet you are from, but I like my atmosphere with at least a 3psi partial pressure of O2

[Mr170IQ]

[samtheman]

good points

[DustyMoment]

Folks, the number 1 greenhouse gas in our atmosphere is water vapor.

GREAT point!!! Thanks for making it!!

[ImaGraftedBranch]

From 1640-1715 or so, the Royal observatories in England recorded not a single sun spot. That timeframe was referred to as a mini ice age. Afterward, the sun spots resumed their 11-or-so year cycle, and temperatures on Earth returned to normal. The hubris of these people that think we can cause global warming. We can not affect the sun, the size of which could hold a million earths, with individual sun spots (magnetic anomalies) each the size of our entire planet. The core of the sun is so dense that it takes 200,000 years for the photons generated at the core to reach its surface. Once it exits the sun, the photon only takes 8 minutes to hit the earth, 96 million miles away. We are so insignificant in the whole scheme of things. Global warming freaks are one of two things:

• Megalomaniacs showing their Hubris el Grande, or
• Dictator wannabe's forcing global govermnent down our throat.

I suspect the latter.

[ctdonath2]

water vapor makes up 98% of our atmosphere

Uh, no. But you've got the right idea.
Snagged via Google:

Average composition of the atmosphere up to an altitude of 25 km.

Gas Name	Chemical Formula	Percent Volume
Nitrogen	N2	78.08%
Oxygen	O2	20.95%
*Water	H2O	0 to 4%
Argon	Ar	0.93%
*Carbon Dioxide	CO2	0.0360%
Neon	Ne	0.0018%
Helium	He	0.0005%
*Methane	CH4	0.00017%
Hydrogen	H2	0.00005%
*Nitrous Oxide	N2O	0.00003%
*Ozone	O3	0.000004%

While I'll grant that the world may be warming, and a bazillion cars spewing exhaust does have an impact, that impact is only a tiny part of what happens naturally. One volcano will blow more CO2 & other gludge into the atmosphere than several years of exhaust.

You do have a good point: there's about 10x as much H2O than CO2 in the atmosphere, and the former causes significantly more "global warming" per molecule than the latter. Interestingly, the only viable "green" alternative to oil (fuel cells) will replace CO2 spewage with H2O. Do the greens really want that?

[maica]

The more CO2 in the ocean, the more life....so goes the circle of life.

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Back in the days before the internet, the National Geographic magazine was one regular source of good information. I remember an article showing the cycle of carbon, rising in a gas, falling in rain into the oceans, etc etc.

I will never understand how human beings can think that we are more powerful than gravity and the power of the sun, and at the same time believe implicitly that we "evolved" from nothingness to our present delicately balanced state.

[cogitator]

Folks, the number 1 greenhouse gas in our atmosphere is water vapor. In fact, water vapor makes up 98% of our atmosphere and is, by far and away, the source of the earths insulation. See the link above to find out how much of the earth's "greenhouse gasses" are comprised of Carboon Dioxide when measured along with water vapor.

The water vapor content of the atmosphere is a climate feedback, not a climate forcing. Do you know the difference?