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FBI taps cell phone mic as eavesdropping tool
CNET News via ZDNet News ^ | December 1, 2006 | Declan McCullagh and Anne Broache

Posted on 12/03/2006 2:32:53 PM PST by ellery

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To: ryan125
better [to] have them listen then have them know where you are

Tower triangulation works pretty well, within 100 yards or so. You'd probaby be better off using a pay phone if you can still find one.

41 posted on 12/03/2006 5:12:01 PM PST by disclaimer
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
That is why I oppose the Patriot Act (I and II). It potentially places far too much power in the hands of people who don't have qualms about its use.

Ah the sound of sanity. It amazes me how many "conservatives" were/are so willing to sign over their freedoms in the name of security.

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." Benjamin Franklin

Pandora's box was opened. Good luck ever closing it again.

42 posted on 12/03/2006 5:22:35 PM PST by mgstarr
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To: ellery

43 posted on 12/03/2006 6:03:25 PM PST by Darth Republican
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To: Right Wing Assault

or simply buy the readily available jamming device.


44 posted on 12/03/2006 6:13:04 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Nathan Zachary

How about the electronic impulses from your computer?

How about the lasers that detect vibration in windows?

How about the private companies that collect your data?


If Disney can sell parental super supervising cell phones for your kids, then that same data is available for purchase.

If Bill and Hillary Clinton can abscond with FBI files and use the IRS to go after people, then privacy is an issue of who is in power not the tools.

Would we rather this be in the hands of conservatives or leftists or third wayists or John Kerry or Al Gore or Hitlary?

The courts can and do not protect us from any of this.


45 posted on 12/03/2006 6:24:58 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
How about the electronic impulses from your computer?

As a matter of fact, the video board in your computer is a great transmitter.

Search using the word "TEMPEST".

What's on your computer screen can be seen from up to 5 miles away.

46 posted on 12/03/2006 6:34:56 PM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: ellery

Ooooh aaaahhh....


47 posted on 12/03/2006 6:42:23 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: mgstarr

Franklin also said "a small leak will sink a great ship." ;)


48 posted on 12/03/2006 6:55:53 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
As far as police or some secret government organization wanting to see through the walls of your house or listen to you, they have been able to do that for decades.

Doesn't mean I have to feel happy about it or facilitate their access in any way. Also, it's worth resisting because government's nature is such that they'll extend their abilities steadily in this area, so I champion anyone who makes it easier for me to safeguard my privacy.

49 posted on 12/04/2006 12:42:37 AM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: ellery; Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; ...
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50 posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/optimism_nov8th.htm)
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To: ellery
As described in detail by Travis McGee in his novel Enemies, Foreign and Domestic.

At least one of the passages describing such cell phone capabilities is available for reading in the free sampler for thew book, about halfway down.


51 posted on 12/04/2006 9:47:28 AM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: ellery

When I was in the USAF, the Comm people always told us that the GCB's (Godless Commie B*stards) could listen in on our beepers and walkie-talkies so we left them outside classified briefings. Now I know they weren't over-reacting.


52 posted on 12/04/2006 9:51:09 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Spork weasels ain't afraid of nuthin' but running out of sardines.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Is it that bad?


53 posted on 12/04/2006 9:55:36 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
They can only determine your location within the radius of the cell tower, which could be anywhere within a 25 mile radius depending on how far apart towers are from each other in the area.

It's not like they can drop a bomb on you.

Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

High tech hit on "president"


Abdul-Khalim Saidullayev, the Chechen rebel "president" killed Saturday by pro-Russian forces, was the fourth pro-independence leader of the Muslim province to be killed in more than a decade of conflict with Moscow. Saidullayev's precedessor, Aslan Maskhadov, was also killed by pro-Russian forces in Chechnya on March 8, 2005. His death came after those of Akhmad Kadyrov, Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev and Djokhar Dudayev. Maskhadov was killed after a battle with Russian forces in the Chechen village of Tolstoi-Yurt after he was, according to Russian officials, trapped in a bunker under a house there.

Dudayev's killing, in April 1996, resulted from a bizarre blend of high technology and long-distance military intelligence as the Russian air force finally got their man after several attempts. Dudayev, 52, was in the village of Gekhi-Chu, about 30 kilometers southwest of the capital Grozny, when he answered a satellite telephone call from a Russian politician in Moscow who was ostensibly acting as a go-between in impending peace negotiations. But minutes later, two missiles exploded at the exact spot where he was standing and he died of his injuries shortly afterwards. Russian authorities at the time confirmed that the missiles had been guided to their target by the signal emitted by Dudayev's satellite phone.

Previous attempts by the air force to eliminate the man whose proud boast was "I have only one bodyguard - Allah," had failed as Dudayev had hung up too quickly. Dudayev had been elected president in October 1991 and proclaimed unilateral Chechen independence the following month.


54 posted on 12/04/2006 9:58:39 AM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: Prodigal Son
 There used to be a freeper who posted under the handle of a John D MacDonald fiction hero. He wrote a book. It had something like this in it.

 

Travis McGee?

55 posted on 12/04/2006 10:00:05 AM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: mgstarr
Ah the sound of sanity. It amazes me how many "conservatives" were/are so willing to sign over their freedoms in the name of security.

Ditto 

56 posted on 12/04/2006 10:02:42 AM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: K4Harty

And Nokia and Motorola and.....


57 posted on 12/04/2006 10:04:20 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

The Founding Fathers could never have envisioned a world with cell phones.


58 posted on 12/04/2006 10:05:57 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: ellery

No thanks. I don't trust government with this much power.


59 posted on 12/04/2006 10:07:21 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Fierce Allegiance

A culinary crime worthy of imprisonment.


60 posted on 12/04/2006 10:10:52 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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