Now you have hit the nail on the head. Think of all the areas that could fit into that category should any National Plan be implemented (which I think we can count on in the near future). Euthanasia in the making of a different type if people are subjected to lifestyle confrontations at their doctors office and then subsequently rejected when programs are not adhered to. (By the way, who will be implementing the programs that would qualify--another government funded program)?
I know many folks on this website do not believe in employee pensions and health plans but I can say that when I went to work many years ago I sought a job that provided those two specific plans. A good job was with a organization that offered both and you had to have some qualifications or be some type of benefit to the organizations who offered the benefits. It warps the minds of people who have dedicated their life to an organization to have that same organization and the politics of the nation turn their back on them and call them freeloaders when they enter the sunset years of their lives. These people were not freeloaders. They were living life in the same manner as the working young people are today. Doing what they had to do to get by.
So you have posed a really good question followed by an excellent statement that catches many people (who may or may not be liberal progressives) on the edge quite unexpectedly. They are at the mercy of corporations and their desire today to not honor the contract (if you will) when the time arrives. There is no way for them to recover via any stock market at such a late date.
I have to agree that you have spotted the very plan regarding "Demand side health care reduction". I believe it is going to be forced on all of us and it will severely affect the above folks that have no way to change the last 50 years of their lives. I do not however, believe it is solely a Liberal game of bait and switch.
I have no idea what the answer is but I do know that my medical insurance as opposed to health care has changed dramatically from when I first went to work. It has evolved into covering everything from a hangnail to a serious disease. Is it the right thing to do to throw me to the government because Hillary decided ALL deserved to have health coverage. The most dramatic insurance changes came after the Hillary Plan. This is when insurance companies (business) jumped on the wagon and started to tell Dr's what they would and would not pay for.
On the other hand, and regarding no National Plan, should we as caring people throw the less fortunate to the wolves. There used to clearly be two plans; one operated by the company you worked for and the other by the government. The latter two plans have and are falling apart because of the political benefit to both parties to combine and create an even bigger program. The bigger program may by some be perceived to be a liberal program but it benefits business equally well. Business no longer feels obligated to provide such benefits.
It boggles my mind and is just another reason to make me wonder where I really stand politically. I keep searching for the government that is for the people--not against them.
Your "DEMAND SIDE HEALTH CARE REDUCTION" PLAN has pointed out something even more scary than I had previously thought but it certainly reinforces my opinion a new type of Euthanasia is on the horizon.
Snoop, I'm glad you get it. You made my day. I was beginning to think that I was the only sane person in an insane world. In which case I would be insane.
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I know many folks on this website do not believe in employee pensions and health plans but I can say that when I went to work many years ago I sought a job that provided those two specific plans.
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I hear you. My mother worked for the State of NJ for 35 years. She drove around in a K-car with no radio, no A/C or heat for 3 f#@&ing decades. She made little money and was passed over for promotions every year. All for me and her family. She hated every second.
She was promised a fat pension and generous health benefits when she retired. That's what kept her going. She earned it.
Thankfully, now her and and my Dad are perpetually in one of three states...either on vacation, just got back from vacation, or about to leave for vacation.
This is going to be a tough one for me if I am fortunate enough to win a NJ state assembly seat.
The public pension system is really way too rich. The state will be bankrupt if no changes are made.
I dunno. I have mixed emotions. Sort of like Osama bin Laden driving off a cliff...in my brand new Mercedes E320.
Hillary Care would have decimated health care as we know it. Pray that she never gets elected to a position where she could bring it up again.