[Snoopers-868th]

sigh: Well we disagree on this man's attitude about his own care then. It's not PC to advise people adopt a healthier lifestyle. His attitude about his health is fatalistic. He doesn't care if he loses limbs. Hence, my reaction to his attitude. I am not for euthanasia at all so you are wrong about my attitude. I just don't think I could keep seeing someone who doesn't want help.

All this lifestyle stuff came with the obsessions with medical technology, face lifts, we are going to live forever group of folks. About the time of the learn about diversity and respect others cultures talk. About the time of politically correct speak.

I did not say you advocated euthanasia I said this type of treatment of patients will create a new type of euthanasia. People will not seek medical attention for fear of being judged on their habits. Then the medical field will deal with them at the near death stage. Wonder if they will like that or will they refuse to treat them because they did not seek medical attention earlier?

It is o.k., we can agree to disagree. That is what I think this website is all about. We learn from conversation--or at least I do.

[cyborg]

I wouldn't judge a person if they came to see me on a first appointment or off and on. I just wonder if I would have the stamina to care for someone who doesn't want to help themselves over years and watch then wither away :( I can see your point though. A lot of people do live in fear of criticism and I see it in men more than women.

[berdie]

Very true, I learn from everyone here. That's why I keep coming back. The debates always seem to bring a new insight.