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To: OKIEDOC
Last year C-Span had on the hearings by a congressional committee examining the effects of shipping to much heavy industry to foreign countries. I sat in amazement as Don Rumsfeld told the two congressmen that many Department of Defense hardware/weapons would depend on spare parts or replacements from countries we may be eventually fighting. What the hell has gone wrong with our government. With all the trade with countries such as China we are slowly siphoning off all of our capability to produce arms to help protect us from those who would like to see us dead. I read this morning where the Democrats want to cut our missile defense. That really blows my mind that some in this country would leave us venerable to North Korea, China and possibly the resurgence of the cold war with Russia and Putin's gone crazy. We also need to be aware of Venezuela and it's rogue government. Well thats my opinion of the situation. This Coast Guard ship thing is possibly only the tip of the ice berg.

Age old greed has taken over government. National policy and representation of We The People has shifted from the voice of the people to the decisions made in corporate board rooms. Defense production is just one of many effected areas but also one of the most critical. The average American does not understand what it takes to build, trucks, planes, ships, ammo.

The one corporate giant who has the most influence on our daily lives though are insurance companies. This isn't Tin Foil theory look at all the laws passed from 1950's-today. Almost every single aspect of our lives now is regulated by this. Everyone excepts it as being good. No person today thanks to such laws can likely go a day without breaking one law definitely not a week.

Defense production wise some of it is the faults of Trade Unions. People stopped be content with an honest livable wage and were making demands the economy could not support. If that wasn't bad enough along comes such agencies as the EPA. Steel Mills are the most crucial industry for national defense. Once thriving they suddenly were finding it hard to be in federal compliance. To forge steel it takes force draft furnaces. That means either using Natural Gas or Coal. Coal is the cheapest and we still have a lot of it. Nobody wants to fight the tight federal laws. The only agencies that can afford to be in compliance is federal ones. TVA is a good example of it.

I'm gonna cut right to it. If we don't do a substantial turn around within the next decade we could find ourselves becoming a third world nation not only on national defense but living standards. Russia despite all her corruption and problems was not quite as foolish as we were after the Cold War. Their factories are shuttered and not now a strip mall or planned community. The same with their military bases. The basic machinery is still there as well so are the trained craftsmen. All they need is cash.

The Middle East oil producing nations are rich and have a high cash flow but no really substantial military might beyond low tech operations. A few exceptions sure but not many.

One M.E. agreement with Russia for defense for dollars could literally have her defense industry back on it's feet while we would still be trying to mine ores and build back factories. It's that serious. That is also one reason the Alaska MWR needs to be opened up for oil. Our survival depends on it. No oil and we do not eat. Our enemies can sink us economically and the first to do it may well be China even via the the M.E. nations. China can't into march here but China sure can march into the Middle East and so can Russia and even the newly formed EU as well. I think you understand what I'm saying. A war is being planned.

I think the idea that Europe is on the verge of freedoms much like the U.S. is not going to happen like it was envisioned. But rather a major portion will come under one ruler likely of the socialist leaning. Due to corruption Socialism or a variant may also again replace the Russian government and the people like before will welcome it back with open arms.

Free Trade is one thing. What's going on is anything but free trade and National Economical Suicide is quite another. It is not Free Trade when the capabilities of our nation production for self defense and even our basic needs is mostly outsourced.

89 posted on 12/02/2006 6:07:04 PM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: cva66snipe
Good post and so true.

Our political system is no longer driven on America being number one but on feel good programs taking place along the lines of a Hugo Chavez and Venezuela.

I went through this anguish during the 70's and 80's when so many steel mills were shutting down.

My department had responsibility to sell surplus equipment and lots of it was loaded on ships and sent to places like Korea.

I am personally worried that in a few more years we will no longer be able to defend our selves.

This next big conflagration in the world will be with those who would rather wipe America off the worlds map.
91 posted on 12/04/2006 4:29:06 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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