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Leahy: Terror Screening Oversight a Must
AP via SFGate ^ | 12/1/6 | MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN

Posted on 12/01/2006 12:51:17 PM PST by SmithL

The incoming Senate Judiciary chairman pledged greater scrutiny Friday of computerized government anti-terrorism screening after learning that millions of Americans who travel internationally have been assigned risk assessments over the last four years without their knowledge.

"Data banks like this are overdue for oversight," said Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., who will take over Judiciary in January. "That is going to change in the new Congress."

The Associated Press reported Thursday that millions of Americans and foreigners crossing U.S. borders in the past four years have been assessed by the computerized Automated Targeting System, or ATS, designed to help pick out terrorists or criminals.

The travelers are not allowed to see or directly challenge these risk assessments, which the government intends to keep on file for 40 years. Under specific circumstances, some or all data in the system can be shared with state, local and foreign governments and even some private contractors.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: leaky

1 posted on 12/01/2006 12:51:20 PM PST by SmithL
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Oh Boy! More Leaks!


2 posted on 12/01/2006 12:51:42 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: SmithL

Leaky Leahy is all over this!


3 posted on 12/01/2006 12:59:12 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: SmithL
I think I will build a shelter and live in it for the next two years.

The enemy realizes now that there really is a Santa Claus.

4 posted on 12/01/2006 1:01:21 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: daybreakcoming

I wish that people with an ax to grind would stop leaking the existence of programs designed to catch or survey terrorists.


These outraged civil liberties people should be happy that everyone traveling by plane was surveyed, not just those from Arab/Muslim countries or traveling to and from suspicious areas.

I guess the outrage comes into play because all travelers were assigned a risk assessment score. Apparently this offends the sensibilities of the ACLU types because once you assign a higher risk score to someone, you will tend to increase surveillance of such people.

okay, you gotta love this reasoning.


5 posted on 12/01/2006 1:06:20 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SmithL

I think we need oversight over leaks.


6 posted on 12/01/2006 1:08:37 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The last time Leahy leaked classified information only a couple of people got killed as a result. The next time it could be tens of thousands.


7 posted on 12/01/2006 1:43:03 PM PST by Old North State
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To: SmithL
LOL, looks like Leahy got the ll/7 "message".
8 posted on 12/01/2006 1:45:48 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: SmithL

Communists crack me up. They always want "oversight" of EVERYTHING.


9 posted on 12/01/2006 2:03:39 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The first act of any war should be to shoot all the politicians.)
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To: SmithL
The travelers are not allowed to see or directly challenge these risk assessments, which the government intends to keep on file for 40 years. Under specific circumstances, some or all data in the system can be shared with state, local and foreign governments and even some private contractors.
40 years is a long time to keep records that you can neither see nor challenge. Think about credit reports, stuff gets messed up on them all the time. In fact, I bet your credit report is one of the things use to assess you.

My guess is that if you accidentally get a bad rating in this database through no fault of your own you will mysteriously have trouble getting on airplanes or reentering the country. Does the IRS get access to this info? What "private contractors" get access to it and why?

I'm sure it's the right thing to do but it should have a lot of supervision. Do you want the next occupant of the White House to do this on their own? Yeah, I think it needs oversight by Congress. That's a lot of Big Brother stuff.
10 posted on 12/01/2006 3:30:02 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: SmithL; silverleaf; daybreakcoming; Dilbert San Diego; Paleo Conservative; Old North State; ...
All this is is an attempt to give the terrorists the same legal rights and travel privileges as law abiding Americans.

Why should the risk assessment scores be made public? Just so those with high risks scores will know they are being scrutinized? Wow, these communists are going to get some people killed.

11 posted on 12/03/2006 8:05:02 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Oversight doesn't mean not doing it or even making the rating public. But the innocent case is that a mistake is made in your rating and you can't clear it up for 40 years. The other case is that some future administration uses it to punish political opponents. Remember the IRS has been used for that in the past.

Somebody other than whatever the current administration is needs to keep a close eye on it to make sure it's not being abused.
12 posted on 12/03/2006 8:22:38 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

As I read this article, all this is is a screening tool. It doesn't prevent travel, just is a heads up on who to watch.


13 posted on 12/03/2006 9:51:08 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie
As I read this article, all this is is a screening tool. It doesn't prevent travel, just is a heads up on who to watch.
Could be. It's probably a good program given the current situation. But it still needs oversight. There's just too much potential for abuse. That's why the Constitution has checks and balances between the branches of government.
14 posted on 12/03/2006 10:01:13 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: SmithL

G.W. Bush's Attorney Generals have never been aggressive against Elected Members of Congress.

Leahy will get away with anything. We need an Andy Jackson and not a GW...


15 posted on 12/03/2006 10:05:06 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

not terrorist rights per se but a chip at a one world law.


16 posted on 12/03/2006 10:09:39 PM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: advertising guy

I don't see how asking for oversight by the US Congress moves us towards a "one world law". Instead of thinking about this in terms of something the Bush Administration is doing, think about some future administration that will still be doing it. Do you want a future Clinton administration to be doing this without oversight?


17 posted on 12/03/2006 10:34:58 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: SmithL
I do not think Leahy has a Clearance to review the details.
I do not think the Intelligence Committee is permitted to provide details to other Senators who do not have the proper Clearance.

It is against the law (I do believe) to attempt to gain access to Classified Information for which one does not have a Clearance.

If Leahy pursues such a path, it would behoove the President to make a referral to the Justice Dept on possible espionage activity by the Senator.

The Constitution gives Congress the power of the purse but to the Executive the Authority to protect this Country.
18 posted on 12/06/2006 6:18:25 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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