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(GOP SCRAPING)THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL (DICK MORRIS ALERT)
VOTE.COM ^ | November 30, 2006 | DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Posted on 12/01/2006 12:05:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Barbour's too chubby for tv. Tancredo and Hunter are House members. Last House member to jump directly to the White House was James Garfield. Allen was a possibility until the media ran Macaccagate 24/7 for a month. Frist is out. That leaves...McLame, Rudy G., and Romney (a Mormon, the MSM would destroy him).

Folks, it's beginning to look a lot like Hillary/Obama.

Me? I'm headed to Bolivia, I'm gonna join Butch and Sundance and stickup banks.


41 posted on 12/01/2006 12:27:12 PM PST by kjo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If he wasn't a Texan, John Cornyn would be a good choice. Without being demonstrative, he's got a spine when dealing with Democrats.

I'm still holding out for Cheney...

42 posted on 12/01/2006 12:27:42 PM PST by Night Hides Not
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, let's take up a collection and send Dick Morris on a trip somewhere. Anywhere. Do people actually publish his stuff? I know he appears on O'Reilly and Hannity sometimes. Why, I don't know. He is a smirky creep with all the wrong opinions. There! I said it.


43 posted on 12/01/2006 12:29:31 PM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I hear ya, Barbour is another that may bear a further look at as well.

Governors win. Barbour in '08.

44 posted on 12/01/2006 12:29:59 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I nominate Fred Thompson:

Some info on Fred Thompson:

http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=T000457

http://www.savethegop.com/archives/2005/07/25/fred-thompson-for-president/

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm


I would vote for him for President in a second. I think he could run the table during the primaries, and wipe the floor with whatever lame Dumbocrat runs against him.

He has lots of pluses, and no negatives that I can think of. And, he has the most important asset--he is very likable.


45 posted on 12/01/2006 12:30:37 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: JamesP81
IOW, we need Ronald Reagan. No one can fill those shoes.

If you want one that's close and would scare the hell out of the lib's. Draft "TOM SELLECK", LoL

46 posted on 12/01/2006 12:31:04 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Mr. K

Rice? Have you looked at the state of the world with Rice as Secretary of State? Talk about sitting out an election.


47 posted on 12/01/2006 12:31:16 PM PST by satan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sen. Allen is still considering running for President, and he's conservative. He would probably have a better chance of winning as an ex-senator. Five former senators were elected President, and only two senators were elected President while they were in the Senate.

Sen. McCain is conservative. Here are a few of his 2005 ratings from interest groups: American Conservative Union, 83%; National Right to Life Committee, 82%; and ACLU, 20%. I am very conservative, and I disagree with him about illegal aliens and campaign finance reform. The above ratings prove that he usually votes conservatively.


48 posted on 12/01/2006 12:32:59 PM PST by PhilCollins
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don't like it. But Dick Morris is right. Conservatives do not have a deep bench. There are several reasons for this.

The #1 reason IMO is the internecine fights at the state and local level between single issue factions who don't think a multi-issue conservative is "conservative enough" because he doesn't emphasize their issue above the other conservative issues.

#2 might be the ego trips. Some conservative "leader" in a think tank or issue faction feels personally "snubbed" by some other conservative leader and then retaliates by "snubbing" him.

#3 behind it all are we in the base who are dishonest about what wins and what does not win. The simple fact is that anti-immigration is a loser. That has been proven over and over again. It has nothing to do with whether the anti-immigrants are right or wrong on the issue. It has solely to do with the fact that the anti-immigrants invariably appear mean-spirited, unfriendly, racist, etc. (including some freepers).

Some of you will object to my not including the word "illegal" and that is precisely my point. The TV ads and literature from the NRCC used the word "immigration" without using the word "illegal".

In short, we need to learn how to put our message in an attractive package in order to sell it. An ugly package will not sell, no matter how great the contents of the package are.


49 posted on 12/01/2006 12:34:38 PM PST by spintreebob (W)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Perhaps it is true that the republican party is at a crossroads.

Having just squandered 6 years of nearly unchallenged control with little to show for it beyond a trail of corruption, indictments, massive wasteful spending and the largest increase in entitlements since the johnson administration, today's gop leaders are ready to rally around another "lesser of 2 evils" candidate on which to pin their hopes for retention of the WH.

It is quite likely, therefore, that the democrats will retain control of both the house & senate in 2008, and win the White House in a split decision.

The republicans have 2 years to find their soul, or risk losing it for a generation or more.
50 posted on 12/01/2006 12:35:47 PM PST by WhiteGuy (GO BUCKS 12-0)
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To: Mr. K
"McCain/Guliani"

I dislike the idea, but that ticket would eviscerate Cankles/Anyone.

51 posted on 12/01/2006 12:36:16 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: MikeA

"Like it or not, it's wise up and be a little compromising"

Looks to me like your idea of a compromise is for the 'base' to give up on everything important to them. In order for this to be a compromise, there should be some giving on both sides of the deal. Exactly what does the 'base' get out of this compromise? Exactly what distinguishes Hillary from Rudi or McCain?


52 posted on 12/01/2006 12:37:17 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Conservative have so many principles that they won't even vote for themselves.)
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To: Mr. K

It will be Giuliani/Jeb or Giuliani/Condi. Book it, now.

Romney is going to run out of steam with his gay marriage thing.

Be Seeing You,

Chris


53 posted on 12/01/2006 12:37:27 PM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I had four republicans I opposed: Giuliani, Rice, Hagel and McCain. McCain is off, I think I can live with him. Rice is off because she ain't running, period. As long as the republican nominee in 2008 is not Giuliani or Hagel, I'm fine with him.

On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." -Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.




The Real Rudy Giuliani:

From Human Events:

Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance

As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:

"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.

I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...

Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.

Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."

Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999

It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?

Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate

In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.

Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

Soft on Gay Marriage

Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.

Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:

His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."

Here's more from the New York Daily News:

"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."

Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.

Pro-Illegal Immigration

As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:

"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."

That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:

"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."

If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.

READ MORE HERE

54 posted on 12/01/2006 12:37:53 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trashing conservatives and pumping up RINO's.
55 posted on 12/01/2006 12:38:23 PM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: dead
Dick Morris licking the bottom of the toe.

Hey, Morris is a bit of a wind sock, but he does tell us what a scumbag the Clintons were/are.

But do we have to hear about his silly toe? It's getting a little old. Don't you think.

56 posted on 12/01/2006 12:39:41 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Mr. K

CR is not ready for prime time.


57 posted on 12/01/2006 12:39:46 PM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: rottndog
Hell yeah!! I could be his Attorney General!! ;)
58 posted on 12/01/2006 12:39:46 PM PST by JZelle
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To: rottndog

AND, he's a great actor! Shades of Ronald Reagan.


59 posted on 12/01/2006 12:44:46 PM PST by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: ContemptofCourt

If Tancredo runs, he'll have a hard time capturing Kansas.

Tancredo = Dukakis in reverse.


60 posted on 12/01/2006 12:46:48 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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