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Genetically engineered blood protein can be used to split water into oxygen and hydrogen
Physorg.com ^
| Dec 1, 2007
| Imperial College London
Posted on 12/01/2006 7:04:15 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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This could be the start of cheap hydrogen for all. No electrolysis needed.
To: ConservativeMind
How much does it cost though? When they don't put a price tag in, it typically is a technology that isn't cost effective currently, but may be after several years and economies of scale are set up.
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12/01/2006 7:06:40 AM PST
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dogbyte12
To: ConservativeMind
This could be the start of cheap hydrogen for all. No electrolysis needed. Chemical synthesis of the molecule is still needed, though -- does it break even, energy-wise? For example, does this stuff breaks down in the reaction, or does it remain intact, and continue to create hydrogen and oxygen?
An extremely interesting approach, though.
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12/01/2006 7:08:37 AM PST
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r9etb
To: ConservativeMind
Hmmmmmmm.......
This could lead to a self contained bio-electric device....
Right out of Star trek Voyager, where the ship was controlled by Bio-tech.
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posted on
12/01/2006 7:08:50 AM PST
by
Cold Heat
(We blew it..... So back to work we go........)
To: ConservativeMind
I thought a little heat separated H2O into Hydrogen and oxygen?
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posted on
12/01/2006 7:15:31 AM PST
by
IllumiNaughtyByNature
(If a pug barks and no one is around to hear it... they hold a grudge for a long time!)
To: ConservativeMind
So, do the moonbat "No blood for oil!" types jump on the "No blood for hydrogen!" bandwagon??
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12/01/2006 7:21:26 AM PST
by
hunter112
(Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
To: K4Harty
Nope, you gotta zap it. Heat puts it back together.
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12/01/2006 7:22:31 AM PST
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patton
(Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
To: K4Harty
A little heat on H2O gives you steam.
To: ConservativeMind
Have any companies expressed interest in the patents?
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posted on
12/01/2006 7:31:22 AM PST
by
GOPJ
(Democratic decisions are meaningless if they can be overruled by an external authority. Fjordman)
To: patton
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posted on
12/01/2006 7:32:16 AM PST
by
IllumiNaughtyByNature
(If a pug barks and no one is around to hear it... they hold a grudge for a long time!)
To: K4Harty
No, it is a chemical process that uses a energy (heat or electricity) in the presence of a catalyst.
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12/01/2006 7:32:26 AM PST
by
Boiler Plate
(Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
To: r9etb; ConservativeMind
Help me out here... Is "albumin" in human blood different than the white of an egg, also called "albumin"? Is that a blanket name for similar types of protein?
Gotta be different - these brainy guys wouldn't have gone to the trouble of getting it from blood if all they had to do was crack a few eggs.... would they?
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12/01/2006 7:33:27 AM PST
by
HeadOn
(The compassion of liberals for criminals is destroying civilization.)
To: Boiler Plate
I thought a little heat separated H2O into Hydrogen and oxygen?No, it is a chemical process that uses a energy (heat or electricity) in the presence of a catalyst.
what did I miss? I am being serious. I would like to understand it a little bettter.
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12/01/2006 7:35:48 AM PST
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IllumiNaughtyByNature
(If a pug barks and no one is around to hear it... they hold a grudge for a long time!)
To: neverdem
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12/01/2006 7:35:56 AM PST
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GOPJ
(Democratic decisions are meaningless if they can be overruled by an external authority. Fjordman)
To: ConservativeMind
Proteins are very sensitive to temperature and pH changes. Albumin also has a relatively short shelf life.
This is a laboratory oddity and will not be on your roof churning out hydrogen.
They do not give effiency numbers either.
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posted on
12/01/2006 7:35:57 AM PST
by
dangerdoc
(dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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12/01/2006 7:39:54 AM PST
by
DocRock
To: r9etb
This synthesized material acts as a catalyst. It uses solar energy to crack the water. Once you have the catalyst the energy is free during daylight hours. The only question is the stability of this catalyst, so the cost will depend on how much hydrogen a pound of this stuff can make, how long does it last and how much does a pound of it cost. Plus other fixed cost things like the equipment to run the operation.
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12/01/2006 7:40:31 AM PST
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Boiler Plate
(Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
To: Boiler Plate
The only question is the stability of this catalyst, so the cost will depend on how much hydrogen a pound of this stuff can make Right. And also the cost (dollar-wise and energy-wise) of making the catalyst.
If you could come up with a genetic-engineering way of creating this molecule, it might not matter.
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12/01/2006 7:46:42 AM PST
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r9etb
To: Cold Heat
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12/01/2006 7:48:08 AM PST
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Boiler Plate
(Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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