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Federal Case May Redefine Child Porn
Cnet News ^ | 11/30/2006 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 11/30/2006 1:14:37 PM PST by Dallas59

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I have to agree with the courts. Look at Jon Benet and the beauty contests for kids these days. Disgusting in my opinion.
1 posted on 11/30/2006 1:14:40 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
Disgusting in my opinion.

Disgusting indeed. Unfortunately, if we give the courts the right to imprison someone for a crime that the prosecutors themselves will tell you they have no evidence for, they WILL NOT stop there. They won't stop until they completely control the internet.

I'm not with the DOJ on this one. This is a sham justification for a grab at power over the internet.
2 posted on 11/30/2006 1:20:35 PM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: Dallas59

I can't define pornography, but I know it when I see it..........


3 posted on 11/30/2006 1:20:45 PM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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"I can't define pornography, but I know it when I see it..."

Which is the antithesis of Law. Its main purpose is to clearly define what is and isn't allowed.

4 posted on 11/30/2006 1:22:39 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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Rather, they argue, his models struck poses that were illegally provocative

Illegally provocative? Good grief. Now they're just making #$&* up.

5 posted on 11/30/2006 1:24:11 PM PST by gdani (Save the cheerleader, save the world)
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To: JamesP81

"I'm not with the DOJ on this one."

I'm not either. I think some of these "photograohers" are pushing it but they are not breaking the law. I don't like the idea of "moving the goalposts" so they are.

It's the nature of free people to push the limits of the law. The goalposts could be moved on anyone.


6 posted on 11/30/2006 1:24:25 PM PST by L98Fiero (The media as a self-licking ice-cream cone)
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In a federal indictment announced this week, the U.S. Department of Justice accused Pierson, 43, of being a child pornographer--even though even prosecutors acknowledge there's no evidence he has ever taken a single photograph of an unclothed minor.

This is crazy! Everyone is now a ham sandwich.

7 posted on 11/30/2006 1:24:25 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: SteveMcKing

True, but those words are from a Supreme Court Justice, no less.........


8 posted on 11/30/2006 1:24:37 PM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: SteveMcKing

A pic of 12 year old in a bikini bent over is not art.


9 posted on 11/30/2006 1:25:10 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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yes, but the issue is - do you want to put all those parents who participate in those beauty contests, in jail for 25 years as child pornographers?


10 posted on 11/30/2006 1:25:32 PM PST by oceanview
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In a federal indictment announced this week, the U.S. Department of Justice accused Pierson, 43, of being a child pornographer--even though even prosecutors acknowledge there's no evidence he has ever taken a single photograph of an unclothed minor.

Rather, they argue, his models struck poses that were illegally provocative. "The images charged are not legitimate child modeling, but rather lascivious poses one would expect to see in an adult magazine," Alice Martin, U.S. attorney for the northern district of Alabama, said in a statement.


Sounds like quite a stretch to me. Next they will arrest the CEO of Sears for its catalog.
11 posted on 11/30/2006 1:25:55 PM PST by microgood
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To: Dallas59
I have to agree with the courts

If a law draws a line that can be observed, it can be followed and upheld. This is crazy and depending on who wants to level charges, just about anybody could land in jail for taking pictures of kids whether they are modeling pictures or family pictures.

12 posted on 11/30/2006 1:26:45 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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Disgusting indeed. Unfortunately, if we give the courts the right to imprison someone for a crime that the prosecutors themselves will tell you they have no evidence for, they WILL NOT stop there. They won't stop until they completely control the internet.

I'm not with the DOJ on this one. This is a sham justification for a grab at power over the internet.


Not just the Internet - as the article points out, by the "reasoning" the DOJ is applying in this case Martin Scorcese could have been prosecuted for Jodi Foster's role in "Taxi Driver", IMHO the best movie of the '70s.

Hysteria and cries of "Won't someone think of the children!" do not justify asinine prosecutions or asinine laws.
13 posted on 11/30/2006 1:26:46 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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Now they're just making #$&* up

And they're admitting it, too. There was a time when a DA would get tarred and feathered for such nonsense. If they thin what this guy is doing is a threat to society, then talk to the congresscritters and get a law passed. But don't go making up BS out of nothing just because you don't like what someone's doing that isn't illegal.
14 posted on 11/30/2006 1:26:50 PM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: SteveMcKing
I agree with your post.

What this photographer has done is only almost child pornography; therefore he should only almost be prosecuted for it.

15 posted on 11/30/2006 1:27:09 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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"They won't stop until they completely control the internet."

Some won't stop until girls have to wear bonnets. Others want them in burkas.

"Freedom"? What's that?

16 posted on 11/30/2006 1:27:26 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: Dallas59
I do not want children to be depicted as adults in ANY context. Otherwise the laws against child pornography are rendered meaningless. In our culture, there has to be a clear line drawn between right and wrong. That line ends with the sexualization of kids.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

17 posted on 11/30/2006 1:28:58 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Maybe the way it's published? It just seems unusual to post pics of kids in bikinis on the same page as adult women in bikinis.
18 posted on 11/30/2006 1:29:21 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: microgood

You'll have to think twice before brining your pictures of a girl's pool party to be developed.


19 posted on 11/30/2006 1:30:15 PM PST by DManA
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To: JamesP81

this is what the DOJ under Gonzales spends its time doing. this, and prosecuting Curt Weldon's daughter a month before the election.

in the meantime, where are the charges in the cases of the national security leaks? no where.


20 posted on 11/30/2006 1:30:36 PM PST by oceanview
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