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SAUNDERS -- Iraq Study Group: The usual suspects
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/30/6 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 11/30/2006 8:01:11 AM PST by SmithL

THERE'S a great anecdote about Abraham Lincoln. During the Civil War, a delegation touting itself as "the weighty men of Delaware" visited Lincoln at the White House. Lincoln's response, as noted at anecdotage.com: "Did it ever occur to you gentlemen, that there was a danger of your little state tipping up in your absence?"

Which brings to my mind the Iraq Study Group. Co-chaired by former Secretary of State James Baker, a Republican, and former House International Relations Committee Chair Lee Hamilton, a Democrat, the ISG calls itself "a bipartisan group of senior individuals who have had distinguished careers in public service." To go by the hype, you would think that this august body will come up with a daring roadmap for U.S. policy in Iraq. Yet experience suggests that the study group, which consists of the same swells who always fill bipartisan panels, will present a set of mealy-mouthed recommendations, more weighty in the authors' minds than in reality.

Consider the bipartisan 9/11 commission, on which Hamilton also served. While the panel did a fine job of investigating institutional flaws that hindered intelligence before the Sept. 11,2001, terrorist attacks, one certainly could argue that the bipartisan makeup encouraged the group to paper over what now can be seen as mistakes made by both the Clinton and Bush administrations.

Worse, because the 9/11 commission chose to pass its 41 recommendations unanimously -- a goal shared by the ISG -- the recommendations were bureaucratic, somewhat impractical and often gratuitous. For example, the panel refused to take a stand on the Patriot Act, but instead suggested that the White House make a case for retaining surveillance powers, followed by a "full and informed debate."

File that one under: Meaningless. And in sub-category: Easy to ignore.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baker; surrendergroup

1 posted on 11/30/2006 8:01:13 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

The ISG reminds me of the UN: The UN is much more interested in "process" than in results.

I would guess that whatever the ISG ultimately proposes, it won't work, and will only hurt the image and power of the United States...and that's not good for us, or the world.


2 posted on 11/30/2006 8:06:49 AM PST by RexBeach ("In war there is no substitute for victory." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: SmithL
a bipartisan group of senior individuals who have had distinguished careers in public service

In other words, the very people who stood around with their heads up their butts while rad-islam metastasized into a problem.

3 posted on 11/30/2006 8:07:54 AM PST by stop_fascism
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To: SmithL
This is my guess, but given the leadership of "F the Jews" Baker, the underlying strategy probably has as its ultimate goal sacrificing Israel. They believe that's the price we will need to pay to the jihadii wolves for some version of "peace" and "stability".
4 posted on 11/30/2006 8:12:40 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer (The Democrats solution is poison. When the patient is dying, their solution - more poison.)
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To: RexBeach
Good morning.
"The UN is much more interested in "process" than in results."

Gee, that sounds like our legal system these days.

Michael Frazier
5 posted on 11/30/2006 8:21:17 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: RexBeach

"The ISG reminds me of the UN: The UN is much more interested in "process" than in results"

It reminds me of why I left the corporate world and went out on my own ... filled to the brim with people who actually think paper shuffling is more important than actually producing anything.


6 posted on 11/30/2006 8:39:20 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: SmithL

Come on

What this really means is that the commission doesn't know what the hell to do so they have to put something out

Leave Iraq but no time table
Talks ( Talk is OK as long as you keep the bullets flying )

It is a bunch of CYA so it looks like they didn't completely waste their time


7 posted on 11/30/2006 8:41:35 AM PST by uncbob
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To: uncbob

Instead, how about a commission to determine how to defeat and destroy Islamonazism, made up of people who have ideas of doing just that.


8 posted on 11/30/2006 8:48:45 AM PST by stop_fascism
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To: stop_fascism

Ain't that that what the Prez and his security team are for


9 posted on 11/30/2006 9:16:19 AM PST by uncbob
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To: uncbob

You have a good point. However, I don't have anything against bringing in experts for a fresh look at a problem. But, I don't understand why these experts always believe that there is nothing that we can do, aside from hiding under our beds and waiting for the boogie man to come and kill us.


10 posted on 11/30/2006 9:23:33 AM PST by stop_fascism
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To: SmithL
I'd rather see a more diverse membership -- with a couple of wild cards -- duke it out. Pit Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who wants more troops in Iraq, against Sen.-elect James Webb, D-Va., who wants to withdraw troops.

Celebrity Death Match would be a better idea for these two.

11 posted on 11/30/2006 9:31:14 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: RexBeach

The ISG wanted Saddam and Son's to remain in power.

All they studied was how to reach that goal.


12 posted on 11/30/2006 9:46:08 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: SmithL
Not real sure why they are all so hyped out about John McCain's failed attempt to dictate policy to the President with his butt clowns in the "Iraq Study Group".

That was a Congressional, not Presidential, Commission. President Bush all ready told them to go pound sand.
13 posted on 11/30/2006 10:01:31 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: stop_fascism

Not all of them, but some of them.

Ed Meese is a good guy, but I don't know that he has a lot of foreign policy credentials.


14 posted on 11/30/2006 11:26:18 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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