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1 in every 32 U.S. adults behind bars, on probation or on parole in 2005
The Daily Mail ^ | 30th November 2006

Posted on 11/30/2006 2:04:02 AM PST by Mrs Ivan

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Is this truw?
1 posted on 11/30/2006 2:04:05 AM PST by Mrs Ivan
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To: Mrs Ivan

Yep.


2 posted on 11/30/2006 2:06:44 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Mrs Ivan
Let's not worry about the lock-up...

let's worry about who they let out.

3 posted on 11/30/2006 2:06:58 AM PST by Nitro (A)
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To: Mrs Ivan

" 1 in every 32 U.S. adults behind bars, on probation or on parole in 2005 "
"Is this truw?"

I can't confirm the exact numbers, Mrs. I, but it's entirely believable....

The "Land of the free, and the home of the brave" is moving ever closer to the Orwellian state where "everything that's not required is forbidden" -- and so an ever-increasing number of us are, techincally, criminals.

I used to use a tagline that read: "The most dangerous phrase in the English language: 'There oughtta be a law'" --

"How do you boil a frog?"


4 posted on 11/30/2006 2:12:53 AM PST by Uncle Ike ("Tripping over the lines connecting all of the dots"... [FReeper Pinz-n-needlez])
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To: Mrs Ivan

This is also extremely expensive. It costs something like $45,000 a year per prisoner.


5 posted on 11/30/2006 2:14:39 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Mrs Ivan

Law enforcement doing what it's supposed to. A good start.


6 posted on 11/30/2006 2:14:51 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: Mrs Ivan

I'd like to know how many of them are REALLY US Citizens...not ones with really good forged papers, using another identity or child of a alien resident, legal or not.


7 posted on 11/30/2006 2:29:03 AM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: durasell
It costs something like $45,000 a year per prisoner.

I just did the maths! That is a HUGE sum of money!

I cannot help thinking that it would be rather more economic to introduce alternative punishments that would be a real deterrant - hanging and flogging, for example.

8 posted on 11/30/2006 2:33:40 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: Uncle Ike

Some posters are beginning to sound like the New York Times: "Crime rates are down, so why are so many people in prison?"

Hint: Social "scientists" haven't figured out a way to "reform" criminals to prevent recidivism. But while locked up, criminals cannot repeat their antisocial, criminal behavior. So locking up criminals prevents crime by those criminals who are locked up. Do we agree?


9 posted on 11/30/2006 2:35:52 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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the law must be discriminatory towards male! Its sexist!


10 posted on 11/30/2006 2:38:53 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

I wonder how many FReepers are behind bars as compared to being in one?


11 posted on 11/30/2006 2:38:58 AM PST by battlegearboat
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

" So locking up criminals prevents crime by those criminals who are locked up. Do we agree?"

We agree, as long as we can agree on a definition of "criminal"....

If you define "criminal" as "someone who does direct, material, and provable harm to the person or property of another", then we're in complete agreement...

If you go by the increasintly prevalent definiton of "anybody who does something I don't like, or who by word, thought, deed, or very existence, offends me", then we're on completely different pages.....


12 posted on 11/30/2006 2:41:05 AM PST by Uncle Ike ("Tripping over the lines connecting all of the dots"... [FReeper Pinz-n-needlez])
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To: Mrs Ivan

Hanging and flogging are cruel and unusual -- even when the person is an enthusiastic participant.

There are entire communities that are economically dependent on prison systems. Essentially it's an industry.

The key is to keep people from committing crimes in the first place.


13 posted on 11/30/2006 2:41:11 AM PST by durasell (!)
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How many of those incarcerated are American citizens? A goodly portion of them are Mexican criminals.


14 posted on 11/30/2006 2:46:15 AM PST by kittymyrib
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I find this odd. I know many people. Hundreds and I can only think of one who was ever in jail for a night and that case was thrown out.
15 posted on 11/30/2006 2:47:31 AM PST by Pacothecat
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To: kittymyrib; AZRepublican
I'd like to know how many of them are REALLY US Citizens

How many of those incarcerated are American citizens?

Very good questions!

16 posted on 11/30/2006 2:48:49 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70
Hint: Social "scientists" haven't figured out a way to "reform" criminals to prevent recidivism. But while locked up, criminals cannot repeat their antisocial, criminal behavior. So locking up criminals prevents crime by those criminals who are locked up. Do we agree?

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We certainly do.

17 posted on 11/30/2006 2:51:44 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Pacothecat

Criminals are concentrated among poor segments of the population. I haven't seen the numbers, but I would bet that crime/prison populations have increased in areas where workfare programs were instituted.


18 posted on 11/30/2006 2:52:23 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Mrs Ivan

We can try harder...


19 posted on 11/30/2006 2:53:30 AM PST by dakine
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To: Mrs Ivan


Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) DOJ
20 posted on 11/30/2006 2:53:52 AM PST by Pro-Bush (hater)
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