Posted on 11/30/2006 2:04:02 AM PST by Mrs Ivan
Yep.
let's worry about who they let out.
" 1 in every 32 U.S. adults behind bars, on probation or on parole in 2005 "
"Is this truw?"
I can't confirm the exact numbers, Mrs. I, but it's entirely believable....
The "Land of the free, and the home of the brave" is moving ever closer to the Orwellian state where "everything that's not required is forbidden" -- and so an ever-increasing number of us are, techincally, criminals.
I used to use a tagline that read: "The most dangerous phrase in the English language: 'There oughtta be a law'" --
"How do you boil a frog?"
This is also extremely expensive. It costs something like $45,000 a year per prisoner.
Law enforcement doing what it's supposed to. A good start.
I'd like to know how many of them are REALLY US Citizens...not ones with really good forged papers, using another identity or child of a alien resident, legal or not.
I just did the maths! That is a HUGE sum of money!
I cannot help thinking that it would be rather more economic to introduce alternative punishments that would be a real deterrant - hanging and flogging, for example.
Some posters are beginning to sound like the New York Times: "Crime rates are down, so why are so many people in prison?"
Hint: Social "scientists" haven't figured out a way to "reform" criminals to prevent recidivism. But while locked up, criminals cannot repeat their antisocial, criminal behavior. So locking up criminals prevents crime by those criminals who are locked up. Do we agree?
the law must be discriminatory towards male! Its sexist!
I wonder how many FReepers are behind bars as compared to being in one?
" So locking up criminals prevents crime by those criminals who are locked up. Do we agree?"
We agree, as long as we can agree on a definition of "criminal"....
If you define "criminal" as "someone who does direct, material, and provable harm to the person or property of another", then we're in complete agreement...
If you go by the increasintly prevalent definiton of "anybody who does something I don't like, or who by word, thought, deed, or very existence, offends me", then we're on completely different pages.....
Hanging and flogging are cruel and unusual -- even when the person is an enthusiastic participant.
There are entire communities that are economically dependent on prison systems. Essentially it's an industry.
The key is to keep people from committing crimes in the first place.
How many of those incarcerated are American citizens? A goodly portion of them are Mexican criminals.
How many of those incarcerated are American citizens?
Very good questions!
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We certainly do.
Criminals are concentrated among poor segments of the population. I haven't seen the numbers, but I would bet that crime/prison populations have increased in areas where workfare programs were instituted.
We can try harder...
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