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WILL CHINA LEAD A STAMPEDE OUT OF THE US DOLLAR? (Very informative charts!)
FinacialSense ^ | November 29, 2006 | Gary Dorsch

Posted on 11/29/2006 5:30:58 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

WILL CHINA LEAD A STAMPEDE OUT OF THE US DOLLAR?

by Gary Dorsch

Editor, Global Money Trends Magazine

November 29, 2006

The $2 trillion per day foreign exchange market never sleeps. Yet for the past six months, the big-3 central banks, the Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank, and the Bank of Japan managed to lull the currency markets into a deep trance. Since last May, the big-3 central banks corralled the US dollar to within a 3% to 5% trading range against the British pound, the Euro and Japanese yen.

The big-3 central banks utilized their three major weapons, (1) relentless jawboning, (2) Japanese threats of intervention, and (3) coordinated rate hikes, telegraphed far in advance to avoid any nasty surprises in the markets. But the big-3’s spell-binding magic act began to wind down on November 25th, when Chinese deputy central banker Wu Xialong jolted the foreign currency markets, warning other Asian central bankers of the future risk of a US dollar devaluation.

Beijing is having second thoughts about the composition of its $1 trillion portfolio of FX reserves, with 70% held in low yielding US fixed income securities. “Firstly, long-term US interest rates are falling. Secondly, the exchange rate of the US dollar, which is the major reserve currency, is going lower, increasing the depreciation risk for east Asian reserve assets,” Wu said.

On October 10th, Fan Gang, another member of People’s Bank of China’s policy committee, made similar comments, “China risks an erosion of its holdings because the US dollar will probably decline.” On August 29th, Gang wrote, “The US dollar is no longer a stable anchor in the global financial system, nor is it likely to become one, therefore it is time to look for alternatives.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at financialsense.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1933saintgaudens; aeschinagenerating; cedeco; diversification; dollar; qih; quantum; redchina; sorosfund
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To: WashingtonSource
why did no one notice our budget deficit has declined?

The deficit is still monstrous, and the public debt is astronomical. If anybody loses control of this at any time it could go the way the gold bugs' nightmare has it.

181 posted on 11/30/2006 4:48:20 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: plain talk
So what is the YTD return for gold?

Looks like roughly 25%.

182 posted on 11/30/2006 4:58:53 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: arthurus
Even thinking of it as fiscal and monetary problems is hopeless. Tinkering with any part of the economy with the goal of effecting changes in direction or holding a line is always self defeating because it misdirects and wastes resources. The government cannot successfully control anything economic except the flow of power to the government which necessarily reduces economic efficiency and increases classic corruption.

It is necessary IMO to be analytical about what the government (hear meaning the Fed, which is private but empowered by government) is doing. At best, the eyes of most people glaze over within two minutes after most economists begin speaking, at least if they are demand-side theorists as those at the Fed are. Presently, the Fed is attempting to control all aspects, sector by sector, of the economy, but is doing a very bad job of it. It is as if we have turned the economy over to academic intellectuals, because they have convinced everyone the subject is too technical for anyone else to understand, and we are all doomed unless we allow them to do as they wish. That should be stopped, and the Fed should be required to do only one thing: provide currency with stable value.

183 posted on 11/30/2006 5:00:26 PM PST by n-tres-ted (Remember November!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

see post #182. Looks like HUI DOES match the YTD return for gold. Not sure what you are saying.


184 posted on 11/30/2006 5:04:10 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Toddsterpatriot; plain talk

The HUI and Gold bullion are pretty close year to year. Although, the HUI outperforms gold over the last five years. Plain Talk: Are you honestly telling me that you didn't know that the HUI is a gold stock index?


185 posted on 11/30/2006 5:09:41 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: plain talk
==You're betting on a 25% rise in 1.5 months? The key word is your statement was "imagine".

Are you sure about that???...And this time, given the state of the USD and global instability, I would argue than there is more potential than ever for a massive surge between now and Dec. 31.


186 posted on 11/30/2006 5:19:30 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
" . . . therefore it is time to look for alternatives."

Yeah. Okay.

The Irish Punt looks good.

/ sarc

187 posted on 11/30/2006 5:21:21 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

For individual investors, it doesn't work the same as a game that requires a punt. If you understand the fundamentals of any market, you can make money no matter which way the economy is headed.


188 posted on 11/30/2006 5:25:20 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Nobody is sure about anything. But with 11/12 of the year gone a 51% pick is more likely to beat a 24% pick on YTD return.


189 posted on 11/30/2006 5:37:32 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk
I still give gold a pretty good chance of catching up (btw, you never did send me a chart of your Chinese investments). But even if it only comes close, I hope you will forgive my spontaneous bouts of celebration on Jan. 1 :o)

PS I'm margined pretty close to 5:1...so whatever gold does, multiply that times five :o) :o)

PSS If gold goes south, then my celebratory mood will be considerably dampened :o( :o( :o(
190 posted on 11/30/2006 5:50:26 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: plain talk

191 posted on 11/30/2006 5:52:08 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You can chart it yourself. Any number of them. FXI is one.

Now that you have acknowledged that you are margined 5:1 we can all see that you are not interested in rational discussion by which yopu would easily lose with 11/12 of the year being gone You are simply trying to hype your pick for personal gain. Pretty sleasy tactics. Get lost scumbag.


192 posted on 11/30/2006 6:01:05 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

The black line in Toddters chart represents the price of gold bullion.


193 posted on 11/30/2006 6:03:47 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: plain talk

I still can't figure out for the life of me why people like you react so negatively to people who trade on margin. It's a personal choice, and harms nobody (except maybe myself). No amount of hype on this website is going to make a dimes worth of difference in terms of the price of gold. Should I be equally upset that you are "hyping" your investment in China's Communist dictatorship? Never mind. Your request is granted (and right back at you, hypocrite!).


194 posted on 11/30/2006 6:09:05 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Alia

Don't post while drinking, it just results in posts like your last one.


195 posted on 11/30/2006 7:40:42 PM PST by Pelham (1 Billion 'Guest Workers' to do Jobs Americans Won't Do.)
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To: plain talk
Here is an example of the Communist paradise your investment dollars are helping to underwrite. Scumbag.

BEFORE

AFTER


196 posted on 11/30/2006 8:22:33 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

The Communists are terrible and I can't wait until they're on the trash heap of history. You're not blaming our trade for their abuse, are you? Did they torture and kill their own people before they got PNTR status?


197 posted on 11/30/2006 8:31:55 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

No, the Communists are responsible for their own actions. Our nation is responsible for being complicit. And both nature (and nature's God) will most surely judge our nation for putting profit above our Judeo-Christian principles. To whom much has been given, much is required...

"20 Then Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of his miracles had been performed, because they did not repent. 21"Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. 23And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths.[d] If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. 24But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you."

--Matthew 11:20-24


198 posted on 11/30/2006 8:45:40 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Our nation is responsible for being complicit.

Complicit? How so?

199 posted on 11/30/2006 8:50:36 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You have already admitted "how so." You yourself said you were against PNTR, some of which (I'm sure) has to do with the graphic illustrations above (not to mention the Communists are by definition enemies of the USA).

Would you invest in Nazi Germany after learning learning about Hitler's Final Solution? Would you have invested in the Soviet Union, after learning about the mass deportations, gulags and genocide? Would you do business with with Pol Pot's Cambodia? Would you sell fertilizer to Timothy McVeigh? Are you doing business with Hugo Chavez' Venezuela? Iran?

C'mon Toddster. Let's not play games. There are times when you simply have to draw a line in the sand, no matter how tempting the potential benefits on the other side.

200 posted on 11/30/2006 9:02:16 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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