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Gingrich calls Iraq war a 'failure'
The Boston Globe ^ | 11/29/06 | James W. Pindell

Posted on 11/29/2006 9:48:42 AM PST by jamese777

In N.H., says Bush must admit that to regain trust

BEDFORD, N.H. -- Former House speaker Newt Gingrich told a New Hampshire audience yesterday that unless the Bush administration admits that the war in Iraq is a "failure," it will never develop a strategy to leave the country successfully.

Gingrich, who has been laying the groundwork for a presidential run, said the Bush administration needs to plan a "third stage" in Iraq, following the military takeover stage and the recent democracy-building stage. But he says a third stage can come about only if officials admit they must change course.

"If the military, White House, and State Department continue to avoid the word 'failure,' how can you bring about a third stage?" Gingrich said.

Gingrich was in New Hampshire for three campaign-style events Monday night and yesterday. While the former speaker has expressed interest in a presidential run, he said yesterday that he is more interested in injecting ideas in to the 2008 campaign than in putting his name on the ballot. He said he will not seriously entertain a presidential campaign until September.

Gingrich, who served on a key Pentagon board that advised Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld in the runup to the Iraq war, was eager to distance himself from the Bush administration's handling of the war.

He said a show of contrition by the White House would help the president regain the trust of the American people and avoid a quick pullout, which would be disastrous.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


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To: Mr. Jeeves

Exactly.


61 posted on 11/29/2006 10:13:42 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: jackieaxe

Yep. We could have declared victory and had a parade-- the works. Instead, we got greedy.


62 posted on 11/29/2006 10:14:43 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: jamese777
Newt is a big doofus.

For a man that has been able to see 'big picture' clandestine plans in the past, he sure gets selective about that perspective when he thinks its politically advantageous for him.

I mean he isn't McStain bad about it... but its defiantly a part of him. Alot around here love him because of his work in the 90s an contract with America, and are apprehensive about trashing him, even when he is wrong. (cozying up to the Hildabeast, selling out on whatever media hot button of the day (katrina, gas prices and gouging, etc), or just pandering to the defeatists while the people who lost the elections a few weeks ago are taking a break from it all and enjoying the holidays.
63 posted on 11/29/2006 10:15:31 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: Spiff
The Bush plan has been to build a democratic style government. Has anyone asked the people who live in the land mass called Iraq what they want?

American troops can be in Germany and Japan because the war was fought against Germans and Japanese who supported by and large their evil leaders and were unquestionably beaten. In Iraq, the war was against Saddam and his power base who dominated the arabians living in the land mass called Iraq.

The arabs living there, in those times and now have less allegiance to a thing called Iraq, (IMHO) and probably more interest in stability rather than style of government.

64 posted on 11/29/2006 10:16:08 AM PST by APRPEH (id theft info available on my profile page)
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To: jamese777
WOW!

Someone finally telling the emporer he has no clothes!

65 posted on 11/29/2006 10:16:14 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: jamese777
Chesty Puller would not approve of talking in a defeatist way while the troops are in harms way.


"We're surrounded!---they can't get away this time"
66 posted on 11/29/2006 10:16:38 AM PST by Griddlee (r)
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To: jamese777
Did anyone watch Fox News this morning? I'm sure I heard Newts name mentioned in regards to "suppressing certain freedoms of speech"..did anyone hear that?
67 posted on 11/29/2006 10:17:22 AM PST by Last Laugh
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To: misterrob

Newt's whole point was that Bush needs to actually call it a failure in public so that the forgiveness and healing can begin and Bush can try to get America to support continued action in Iraq, probably with a new congressional resolution.


68 posted on 11/29/2006 10:17:28 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Patrick1
The use ofd the word failure is a mistake, but Newt does say the following:

He said a show of contrition by the White House would help the president regain the trust of the American people and avoid a quick pullout, which would be disastrous.

The first goal in Iraq, Gingrich said, should be to rebuild the national military, even if it requires spending tantamount to the Marshall Plan effort in the aftermath of World War II, in which the United States spent up to 3 percent of its gross domestic product.

"We have to show we are serious about winning and that we will defeat any person, Sunni or Shi'ite, that hopes to disrupt progress," he said. "But we can only do that if we have Iraqi troops on the ground."

69 posted on 11/29/2006 10:17:48 AM PST by kabar
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To: T. Jefferson
Take any two major cities in this country, say Detroit and Washington, D.C. More americans are murdered here every month than in the Iraq.

That is not even remotely true.

70 posted on 11/29/2006 10:19:16 AM PST by Wormwood (Self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly - Ronald Reagan)
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To: wideawake
Wideawake! tear down that wall!!!
71 posted on 11/29/2006 10:19:26 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: napscoordinator
How would admitting permanent failure lead to eventual success? What will lead to success is recognizing mistakes and shortcomings then making the necessary adjustments, it's not to demoralize the troops by claiming policy and actions has turned into a permanent failure. Newt's trying to appease both the get out now and get out after we have success crowds but that's just too much like a Kerry.
72 posted on 11/29/2006 10:20:11 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Obadiah
"Do we have the national will to persevere and win?"

I think we have the will to KILL the enemy and win - but not the will for the nation building going on now.

Rebuilding Iraq should happen AFTER we have won, it should not be a strategy to "win hearts and minds". But, what do I know?

73 posted on 11/29/2006 10:21:02 AM PST by Last Laugh
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Err....um.....how many thousands of those troops have died recently?

So you're OK with waiting another 100 years to make a decision?

There won't be many casualties by then, I'm sure.

74 posted on 11/29/2006 10:21:40 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: evad

http://www.neuticles.com


75 posted on 11/29/2006 10:22:16 AM PST by AliVeritas (And you will know that I am in the midst of Israel, that I am the Lord your God.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The reconstruction has been a failure, partially due to too much civilian and UN involvement when Iraq really needed an unabashedly American military governor to play the role Douglas MacArthur played in post-war Japan.

Iraq is producing more electricity and oil than they were prior to the war. Roads, hospitals, schools, water and sewage treatment plants, etc. have been built. It's infrastruture is in better shape today than before the war.

76 posted on 11/29/2006 10:22:17 AM PST by kabar
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To: jackieaxe
"The war was not a failure, but this occupation is."

Bingo! This strategy of country building is nothing more than a shootin gallery.

Either substantially add to the troop levels and gain control or get the h*ll out.
77 posted on 11/29/2006 10:22:35 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Patrick1

"Nice headline except for the fact that he didn't say that. I saw the speech on C-SPAN. What he said was the war was a success taking out Saddam in less than a month. He argues that the current strategy in Iraq has failed and another way needs to be found to bring Iraq into a liberal democracy and kill Islamists. Hard to argue."


EXACTLY!!! Before people call Newt all kind of names and bash him for being twice-divorced (everyone's favorite thing to bring up since there no arguing w/ his political mind or ability to win), we should all investigate what he actually said.


78 posted on 11/29/2006 10:23:12 AM PST by RebekahT ("Government is not the solution to the problem, our government is the problem." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: jamese777

Failure Newt? Tell the store owners who now can run their stores without fear of their government, tell that to the girls now going to school, tell that to the residents who nowe have electricity when they never had it before, tell that to those families who have sacrificed EVERYTHING and are now seeing improvements they never knew before- Failure Newt? Nice to see you switching sides- at least your true nature is being revealed before elections- thanks for the insight newt- think I'll be voting for soemone who has standards & doesn't play politics by catering to the opposite side! http://sacredscoop.com


79 posted on 11/29/2006 10:23:18 AM PST by CottShop
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To: jamese777

Newt's chances to win the nomination just went from 2% to ZERO. Though he might still qualify to be Hillary's running mate.


80 posted on 11/29/2006 10:23:51 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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