Posted on 11/29/2006 7:56:05 AM PST by Spiff
IF these people actually go their instead of being spoonfed propaganda, none of them will be saying "killemall", "cutandrun" or any other stupid inanities that helps no one but the terrorists.
You know, the people we are trying to kill?
No don't go in and kill the bad guys and leave.
Exterminate every last damned one of them and leave a blackened poisoned landscape then tell the rest of those flea bitten camel jocks that if you so much as Whimper something in protest, we'll do precisely the same thing to you.
That scenario should be applied to every single solitary country we even THINK is harboring terrorists.
Nation building my ass.
Kill 'em all, let God sort them.
#21 is a good post. I would be inclined to agree with that assesment, overall.
I think McCarthy really exaggerates the "disconnent" between the U.S. population and our government leaders. For all their blather, the U.S. government really has no interest in democratic rule in the Muslim world. This "promoting democracy" sh!t -- going all the way back to the early 20th century when the U.S. adopted an imperial, globalist mindset -- has never been anything more than silly catch-phrases and buzz-words to convince people that there is some virtuous, noble underpinning to what we're doing over there.
I think it is a weak and worthless piece.
Good point. Democracy only has value insofar as it promotes individual rights.
Bush did not act boldly enough as a Neo-conservative. A true Neo-conservative would have imposed a western secular Constitution, without a whiff of Islamic shariah.
It'll be a religion of peace when I'm done with it.
Your comment added incredible value as well ... as does this one.
Less than 10% of IRaq is allied with terrorists. DO that and you would have increased the terrorist numbers by 26 MILLION more. WHen the NAzis came rolling in and slaughtered people left and right, the Polish, slavs, and others didn't knuckle under. They knuckle up. Same as we would if China came a knocking. Wanton atrocities don't make you look good or bring people to your cause.
Right. And a true neo-conservative might just as well have protected the Gulf Coast from Hurricane Katrina by instituting "hurricane-free" governments in Louisiana and Mississippi.
It's because we mean two things by "democracy". We tend to use it to "convey constitutional representative government". Sure the islamowackos like being voted in. But once in they strip away constitutional protections, that we think are implied by "democracy". This pedantic remark brought to you by Starbucks French Roast.
"THEY JUST DON'T GET IT, and never will. Western society went through a Renaissance and reformation, and had years of Enlightenment thinking to fall back on in creating democracy. Islam hasn't even gotten to the Renaissance part yet, and is unlikely to ever develop the mindset that would bring about the creation of or abiility to participate in a democracy. Our obligation is to get serious about defending ourselves and our way of life."
Exactly why Colin Powell must be having a good laugh right now. We spent 400 Billion to find this out ? My question is how do you win this war. I think you cannot. You can only try and prevent future attacks on our soil. That is why we need to protect our borders. Or wipe out the entire Muslim population which if attempted would bring on World War III. The biggest mistake this president made was going into Iraq without a clear strategy (good strategy) for what we wanted to accomplish besides of course getting S Hussein. Now we may have the dems in office for the next 6 years due to that blunder
I could really give a damn about looking good. I don't want to occupy them, I want them to surrender. Completely, totally and if you kill more of them than they kill of us, eventually they will surrender. That's why we call it WAR.
No I'm no politician and don't care to be one. War is an argument, the best way to end the argument is to kill the other Man.
End the argument.
"Jihad has been declared against America and our attempts to "democratize" Islamic, terrorist-supporting nations will not only fail, but fail badly."
Well, I certainly hope not. Without democracy, you only have tyrants running countries. Only the most bloodthirsty, crazed, and ruthless leaders will survive in a country run by tryants. And eventually, given enough time, all countries will have nuclear weapons. And when you have several countries or even dozens of countries run by jihadist and they all have multiple nuclear weapons, who do you blame when you get hit with one? I think democracy is worth a shot.
And what if they used that Western, secular Constitution to vote in Shariah rule (actually, misrule)?
"Sitting down with evil legitimizes evil."
Says it all...
"Kill 'em all, let God sort them."
I don't know If that would work. If we were to go nuclear with Iraq or Iran we could start a war that could look like this ( US, Isreal and the UK ) VS ( Everyone else ). Muslims are scattered all around the world. 2nd largest religion out there is the muslim religion. But who knows.
"Less than 10% of IRaq is allied with terrorists. DO that and you would have increased the terrorist numbers by 26 MILLION more. WHen the NAzis came rolling in and slaughtered people left and right, the Polish, slavs, and others didn't knuckle under. They knuckle up. Same as we would if China came a knocking. Wanton atrocities don't make you look good or bring people to your cause."
Excellent point.
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