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To: MadIvan
Personally I'm taking a wait and see approach on this case. While Putin certainly has some skeletons in his closets (by some accounts an entire graveyard of jiggling bones) he is not stupid. Thus it would be weird for him to authorize a hit on someone like Litvinenko (who although troublesome is in actuality not that big of a problem), and to order the hit to be done in such a (rather) stupid manner. The guy took around a month to die! During which time he was able to give interviews that, in essence, painted Putin as the person responsible for his poisoning (and subsequent death).

If the Russians wanted Litvinenko killed there are myriad better ways of doing it, with the ways ranging from the mundane (eg 'blown' tire) to more 'elaborate' methods. There would be no reason to use a relative slow method that is highly exotic and allows the person to shout from the mountaintops how Putin is trying to kill him (particularly just before Putin is scheduled to head to Europe).

Furthermore while Mr. Litvinenko was a thorn in Putin's side, he was not that major of a thorn to warrant such a hit.

Now, if you look at Berezovsky you have a person who has it BIG for Putin. Absolutely hates the guy. Furthermore you have a person who is among the richest people in the world, being one of the billionaire oligarchs. He definitely has the means (you'd be surprised what a resource base of several billion is capable of purchasing), and he has the motive (to discredit Putin before the European meet).

Anyways, did Putin do it? Maybe he was overcome by a spell of sheer and utter stupidity and decided to kill Litvinenko in a manner that left breadcrumbs heading straight to Moscow.

Did Berezovsky do it? Saying 'yes' outright would be the best evidence of prudence, but he does have the means and the motive.

Anyways, I'm not 'defending' Putin. And I am not subscribing to a conspiracy theory. All I am saying is that the manner and mode of death was of a highly-damaging nature when the Russians had access to quite a number of other measures that would have been far more effective (inculding some that would enable them to 'send a message' without smearing themselves in the process). As for Berezovsky ....I am not saying he did it (until evidence comes out saying that he did it then he did NOT do it), but he is definitely capable of doing it.

I'd say both sides are doing exactly what they accuse each other of doing:

pro-Putin types are screaming that Berezovsky did it, and nothing can dissuade them of that 'fact' (even though there is NOT ONE scintilla of proof that Mr. B was involved at all with this case, apart from Mr. Litvinenko having visited him, and yet the pro-Putin types automatically pointed the finger at Berezovsky based on nothing but 'beliefs' and convoluted connections).

Anti-Putin types are doing the same, but in their case adamantly asserting that it had to be Putin (his authorisation) and not even bothering to look at how bizzare it would be for Putin to authorize such a STUPID hit (target doesn't deserve a hit, methodology utilized was seriously flawed, timeframe, creation of a furor just before a major meeting).

I'd rather wait and see what happens. I'm sure the Brits will come up with an answer one way or the other.

13 posted on 11/29/2006 1:57:02 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz
Exotic hits are not out of character for the KGB. Remember the poisoned umbrella tip that got Georgi Markov?

This is sending a message, not just taking out Litvinenko - Putin is saying, "We can take you out anytime, anywhere - keep quiet, unless you want to die in agony."

That's a powerful message to send.

Regards, Ivan

14 posted on 11/29/2006 2:11:24 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: spetznaz
pro-Putin types are screaming that Berezovsky did it, and nothing can dissuade them of that 'fact' (even though there is NOT ONE scintilla of proof that Mr. B was involved at all with this case, apart from Mr. Litvinenko having visited him, and yet the pro-Putin types automatically pointed the finger at Berezovsky based on nothing but 'beliefs' and convoluted connections).

Excellent post! I am considered by most to be in the pro-Putin camp. However, I have stated numerous times that while I am of the opinion Berezovsky did it, I honestly do not know, and it could be either Putin, Berezovsky, someone else, or even rogue elements in the GRU or SVR. However, the Russophobes are CERTAIN Putin did it, and they are ready to hang the man. Once again we see the OJ jury.
20 posted on 11/29/2006 3:00:50 AM PST by GarySpFc
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To: spetznaz

The Polonium had to come from a sophisticated source. Either it was connected to Putin, or it wanted to appear connected to Putin. I don't have a dog in this fight, but it seems like there are an awful lot of people who eagerly jumped on the anti-Putin bandwagon.


25 posted on 11/29/2006 3:16:27 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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