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'Avalanchas' Over Chavez Polls
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | 28 Nov 2006 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 11/28/2006 5:40:32 PM PST by Kitten Festival

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1 posted on 11/28/2006 5:40:33 PM PST by Kitten Festival
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To: Kitten Festival

Hi, Kitten. Another great IBD article.


2 posted on 11/28/2006 5:43:55 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: Kitten Festival

I am sure Jimmy Carter wouldnt let anything that wasnt strictly legitimate happen during this election.


3 posted on 11/28/2006 5:47:00 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Kitten Festival
Chavez will probably win 95% of the vote. At least that's what it will look like and Jimmy Carter will put his seal of approval on the outcome.
4 posted on 11/28/2006 5:49:21 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Kitten Festival

Does anyone really think pug face will step down if he loses this election?


5 posted on 11/28/2006 6:26:39 PM PST by Uncle Meat
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Chavez is going to do whatever he can to put the fix in. Do you really think this stinking pile of ego intends to lose?


6 posted on 11/28/2006 7:15:40 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: sgtbono2002

Jimmy Carter can go to Hell.


7 posted on 11/28/2006 7:16:20 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Kitten Festival

Of course this election is fixed. Its too bad they were unable to overthrow Chavez in 2002, when his opponents had their best opportunity. All Americans need to know that Chavez is an enemy of the United States. Chavez will get his commupence one day. Boycott Citgo!


8 posted on 11/28/2006 7:57:34 PM PST by JewishConservative
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"Jimmy Carter can got to Hell"

Yes he can, and he even has friends there he can stay with.


9 posted on 11/28/2006 8:36:56 PM PST by libs_kma (Monica blew while Al-Queda grew.....Oh well, Clinton happens!)
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To: Uncle Meat

"Pug face" LOL! Good one!

I always thought Chavez' face looked like it had been set on fire and then put out with an icepick.


10 posted on 11/28/2006 8:43:11 PM PST by Levante
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To: StJacques; Alia

Ping-0-rama


11 posted on 11/29/2006 7:03:04 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Let us all gather together on the lawn to bid Karl Rove a fond "Adios, Amigo!")
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but the failure of U.S.-based pollsters to control for Venezuela's "fear factor," which keeps Venezuelans from revealing their true opinions out of fear of reprisals.

There's the truth.

Charlie Reese, US columnist in a column today asserts he'd rather have Chavez as President than President Bush. FYI.

12 posted on 11/29/2006 8:27:02 AM PST by Alia
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The guy is insane. I hope he GETS Chavez as his president and leaves the rest of us alone.


13 posted on 11/29/2006 9:53:52 AM PST by Kitten Festival
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To: Kenny Bunk; Alia; livius; proud_yank; Founding Father; Kitten Festival; chilepepper; Fiddlstix; ...
A Latin American Left Watch ping here.

Kenny Bunk, thank you for the ping and Kitten Festival, this is an excellent article you have posted here. The "Fear Factor" is precisely the determinant of the polls conducted and the Penn, Schoen, & Berland poll, which continues to show a dead heat with Rosales perhaps slightly ahead, is the one I trust most. It is my opinion that the author of the thread article gets it right when he puts the variation of the poll results up in light of what has been going on in the campaign in Venezuela with regard to intimidation of civil and state employees by the Chavez regime as well as concerns that the fingerprint-id machines used at polling places, i.e. the captahuellas, could be used to target Chavez regime opponents.

You cannot look at poll results in Venezuela without taking the environment in which the polls were conducted into account. VCrisis.com has come down really hard on the Associated Press on this very issue, for its recent AP-Ipsos poll. So be careful when you read poll results for the Venezuelan election. And keep in mind, as the pollster for Penn, Schoen, and Berland made clear; that in 1990 Daniel Ortega led in every pre-election poll conducted in Nicaragua only to lose handily to Violeta Chamorro. Venezuela presents a similar analogy.

And just to soothe the visual senses, take a look at the turnout for Manuel Rosales this past weekend at his "campaign closing" march through Caracas. The Mayor of a Caracas suburb estimated the turnout for the rally at "less than one million four hundred thousand."

Closing Rally for Manuel Rosales in Caracas
November 25, 2006


Photos by Aleksander Boyd of VCrisis.com


 
Chavez is getting an eyeful from the Helicopter circled in red observing the march
Closer view of crowd winding into city center
The view from behind Rosales

14 posted on 11/29/2006 12:19:16 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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I never will understand the violent hatreds of the Left.

I have been counseling the son of an old friend, quite an ardent Leftist. The kid, all of 23 years old, is consumed with hatred of Nixon(?) and Bush (?!)almost to the point of commitment to an institution. Hopeless marijuana-fueled ignorance... after a $100,000 "education."

Perhaps this mindset is genetic. His Dad has outgrown the worst of it. I.E., he no longer equates members of the Republican Party with NAZIs, having at least figured out where he would be if they really were!

15 posted on 11/29/2006 12:25:16 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Let us all gather together on the lawn to bid Karl Rove a fond "Adios, Amigo!")
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"I never will understand the violent hatreds of the Left. . . ."

I think it really comes down to a hatred of the different ways in which people think. At their heart, leftists cannot stand that people think differently than they do and they are more than willing to punish those who disagree with them as a consequence. They are absolutely convinced that, if only everyone thought the same way then everything could be fixed. And they will never understand that people WILL think differently, no matter what. It's that freedom to disagree that they hate most, though they recognize that lip service must be paid to the principle it embodies.
16 posted on 11/29/2006 12:49:12 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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I chalk up the violent hatreds of the left to their need to feel morally superior to everyone, exacerbated by poor critical thinking skills. Jimmy Carter is Exhibit A.


17 posted on 11/29/2006 2:34:15 PM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: StJacques
I think it really comes down to a hatred of the different ways in which people think

I think you are right. I think this is also why liberals make such "kiss-up" hay over multi-culturalism as a pretense to hiding their hatred of differences.

I've always considered liberals control freaks. Everything is only relevant to the liberal "self", and the liberal think paradise could be had on earth if everyone ELSE would just give up their individuality and be just like the liberal. The spoiled child syndrome.

18 posted on 11/29/2006 6:21:22 PM PST by Alia
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To: StJacques

I Love these Photos! :)


19 posted on 11/29/2006 6:22:14 PM PST by Alia
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To: Kitten Festival

People like Chavez and his supporters never DO leave anyone else alone. It's a personal power trip for them, and where's the power if ya can't lord it over others and bully 'em. To avoid intragroup brawling, they have to go find others to pester. It's thug/gang behavior. There's always gotta be some newer turf to claim, some newer group to terrorize. Otherwise, the group turns inwards and begins fighting and killing each other.


20 posted on 11/29/2006 6:25:05 PM PST by Alia
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