Posted on 11/28/2006 2:13:18 PM PST by humint
MOUNT QANDIL, Iraq (AFP) - It took just a few minutes inside the offices of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in the mountain village to figure out who was their leader. Ronahi Ahmed was in charge, and the men in the room immediately deferred to the stern-faced woman with long curly hair and an unexpectedly brilliant smile. Although ostensibly a member of the civilian political wing of the PKK, Ahmed still had a pistol at her belt, a reminder of her days as a guerrilla leader. In a part of the world known for the subordination of women, nowhere do females play a greater role than in the ranks of this Kurdish movement in the rugged mountains of northern Iraq. Once Marxist but now saying it is committed to peaceful and democratic change, the PKK retains a quasi-military structure that gives its own brand of feminism a distinctly martial cast.
"When a woman leaves her home and picks up a rifle it is no small thing -- it is a social revolution," said Arshem Kurman, a hardened guerrilla and lecturer at one of the movement's schools where women's rights are taught. "We are opening the eyes of Kurdish society," she added, explaining how female fighters in the PKK symbolize women's empowerment among her people. With their camps in the mountains and an emphasis on education and equality, the PKK aims to offer an alternative model for Kurdish and Middle Eastern women. Their struggle is constant, admit the women activists and guerrillas, not only in wider society but also among their fellow fighters who themselves do not always reflect the movement's progressive attitudes.
"That is the importance of martyrdom -- it gives our cause weight," said Kurman, adding that female losses in battle and suicide bombings by women have forced men in the movement to take them seriously. "Women are dying every day, so what better way to send a message?" she said, and described how one Kurdish woman killed more than 50 Turkish soldiers in a suicide attack in the 1990s. During that decade the PKK launched 15 suicide attacks -- 11 of them by women. But in 1999, after Turkey jailed PKK founder Abdullah Ocalan, the movement announced its commitment to a peaceful solution. In February this year an Iraqi Kurd from Sulaimaniyah set herself on fire near the Turkish-Iraqi border in protest at Turkish treatment of the Kurds. Posters of Vian Jaf can now be found in many of the movement's buildings.
PKK leader Cemil Bayik stressed that the leadership did not want to encourage such actions, however. "We are not saying the action was right and we criticize it openly, but as you are aware, emotion in the Kurdish people is running very high," he said at his headquarters in the Qandil mountains. "The Kurdish people respect her actions." Bayik also displays a poster of Vian Jaf on the wall of his room. Gaining respect and equality in the male-dominated societies of the Middle East is not easy, PKK women said. "A woman can't stand up and talk in such a society," said Reha Baran, an administrator at the school -- a cluster of stone huts in the mountains. "For example, in Kurdish society men are the only ones allowed to speak. If a husband is not home, then it is the eldest son, regardless of his age. "Because of the backwardness of society, women have been pushed to the margins," she added. "Our aim is to return them to the center of daily life and society." Female activists and guerrilla leaders converge from all over the Kurdish regions to study at this school and learn how women were deprived of their rights and what can be done to regain them. They then take these ideas back to their villages and units and spread them throughout Kurdish society.
Cahide, who as a guerrilla goes by just the one name, travels to Kurdish towns and villages to try to present a different social model to these traditional societies. "They look at women as weak and when we go there they don't take us seriously," she said. "But as time passes, you stay and talk and start to put across your ideas... they look at you more seriously and start to listen." Cahide admitted that they have to be careful not to alienate her audience, however. "When I go to a village I know there are red lines. You have to know these people and their culture and how much they can handle," she said. The young female PKK guerrillas feel that their lives, in which they carry weapons alongside men in a struggle for Kurdish identity, are still vastly superior to what they would have lived had they stayed in their villages. As the sun set on a hillside overlooked by the towering snowcapped bulk of Mount Qandil, a dozen female guerrillas aged between 15 and 21 sat in the grass drinking tea.
They all laughed when asked if they had not preferred to stay at home and bear children rather than arms, universally shaking their heads. "Women in these families are forbidden from learning, forbidden from leaving," said Rojbin Hajjar, a Kurd originally from Syria. In some cases, especially in Iran, guerrillas have helped unhappy girls run away from their families to join the PKK, Hajjar added. "We are not just an example for the women of the Middle East but for women the world over," added rebel commander Sozdar Serbiliz. |
PKK guerilla sub-commander, Sozdar Serbiliz, sits in front of a banner bearing the image of, Abdullah Ocalan, the movement's jailed founder, at a base in the mountains of northern Iraq's Kurdish autonomous region 19 November 2006. Once Marxist but now saying it is committed to peaceful and democratic change, the PKK retains a quasi-military structure that gives its own brand of feminism a distinctly martial cast.(AFP/David Furst)
PKK female guerillas fire a rifle during military exercises in the mountains of northern Iraq's Kurdish autonomous region. In a part of the world known for the subordination of women, nowhere do females play a greater role than in the ranks of this Kurdish movement.(AFP/File/David Furst) |
Like I thought. You don't want to know the truth. Keep living in a dream world child. Good night.
I'm pro Kurdish. The Kurds are made up of different factions and the PKK isn't the faction you should be pulling for. They are Marxist, were Marxist and shall forever be Marxist. Like I said, do some research. These aren't the good guys.
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Drug Trafficking[6] [17] | Transit | Transit | Destination | ||
Human Trafficking[6] | Origin | Origin |
Is there a chart depicting the (Turkish) responses? I don't defend the particular actions but I would like more info if available.
Progress. At least you acknowledge they are Marxist.
They are my enemy's enemy at this point. I'm not delusional.
The Taliban were our friends when they were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. We armed them with our latest anti aircraft missiles at the time. Sometimes the enemy of your enemy bites you in the ass. Food for thought.
There are any number of Western oriented capitalistic Kurds who admire us and want to pattern their economy after ours. Picking the PKK as an example of a group you admire reveals a certain lack of knowledge about the area. Continuing to defend your position even after you've acknowledged they're not the kind of friends we want (Marxists) doesn't make sense.
I don't admire them. I feel the need for a strong centralized(preferably pro western) government in place. I would like to hear your alternatives. You like to bash my viewpoints but please suggest a better one.
My alternative? Support groups in Iraqi Kurdistan who are friendly towards us. Here's some info for you below. It might interest you to know the President has designated the PKK as a terrorist group.
The other, the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), fought in the name of Marxism and Kurdish nationalism, for an independent state in southeast Turkey in the 1980s and 90s. It was one of the first groups to use suicide bombers and, with the backing of Syria, the PKK engaged in the massacre of civilian villages where its dogma was opposed, eventually leaving an estimated 30,000 dead.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1745452/posts
Here's some excerpts from the State Department report:
Kongra-Gel was founded by Abdullah Ocalan in 1974 as a Marxist-Leninist separatist organization and formally named the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) in 1978. The group,composed primarily of Turkish Kurds, began in 1984 its campaign of armed violence, which has resulted in some 30,000 casualties. ... In the early 1990s, the PKK moved beyond rural-based insurgent activities to include urban terrorism....The group conducted attacks on Turkish diplomatic and commercial facilities in dozens of West European cities in 1993 and again in spring 1995. In an attempt to damage Turkeys tourist industry, the then-PKK bombed tourist sites and hotels and kidnapped foreign tourists in the early-to-mid-1990s. Turkish authorities have confirmed or suspect that the group is responsible for dozens of bombings that occurred throughout 2005 in western Turkey, particularly in Istanbul, but also in resort areas on the western coast where foreign tourists, among others, were killed.
You hate the PKK. This is well established. Do you suggest initiating a collapse in Kurdistan? Yes or NO?
OK. There's no reasoning with you. Good night.
Thank you for the info but my enemy's enemy is still my 'friend' here.
I don't pray often,
But I pray that the Kurds can last,
and that we do not leave them on their own.
(Been there, done that, sucks.)
Nonetheless, Turkey is key to the Kurd's future.
OK. There's no reasoning with you. Good night
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