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Childless: Some by Chance, Some by Choice
The Washington Post ^ | 11/28/06 | Nancy Rome

Posted on 11/28/2006 10:11:14 AM PST by steve-b

No, no, sorry. I don't have any . . ."

Why does this always seem to be the first thing I'm asked? It takes my breath away, yet why do I feel the need to apologize for my reply? Looking vague and embarrassed, my questioner glances over my shoulder for someone else to talk to: someone with whom he or she has more in common, someone with children....

Just as some women talk of a visceral urge that propels them to have children, others speak of an equally visceral urge that propels them not to. Laurie, a transplanted southerner who teaches history in New York, began to realize at an early age that she didn't want children, as she watched wealthy mothers in Richmond hire other women to care for their children. "These people compelled to have trophy babies in certain socioeconomic echelons don't want to face the realities of raising a child." She is now infuriated by what she calls "that Mother Right" -- the assumption that everyone will make way for a woman with a stroller or a child in tow....

But almost all the women I've talked with describe feeling acutely aware of what they see as our national obsession with motherhood: "The Bump Watch" hounding Jennifer Aniston and Jennifer Lopez; "Celebrity Babies" like the elusive Suri Cruise; and "The Ultimate Hollywood Accessory: A New Baby," popularized by Brangelina. Some use the term "child-free" to differentiate those who choose not to have children from those who had been unable to have them....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: child; childfree; childless; children; nancyrome; nokidding; nokids; parent; parenthood; plannedbarrenhood; zpg
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To: wideawake
"The thread is about childlessness - a trend that has increased dramatically since the mid-70s, around the same time your favorite procedure was legalized.

America is missing at least 20 million children - do you think that might have an impact on childlessness in America?

Perhaps?"


Ok. What is the basis of your anti-abortion thread-hijack? If your answer has anything to do with a Judeo-Christian belief system, you are breaking one of the Top Ten (#9 Thou shalt not bear false witness) by your ham-fisted attempt at insulting Linda2003.


81 posted on 11/28/2006 10:55:54 AM PST by WolfRunnerWoman (Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole.)
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To: Ace of Spades
And you're saying it's not their choice to make?

Well, it's their choice, but if everyone made the same choice there would be no children and no future. Somebody has to have the children. So if you don't have the children, then the burden falls on someone else. Someone else has to sacrifice, so you can buy Prada. (note: This doesn't apply to women who have tried or cannot have children, only those who actively decide not to have children.)

82 posted on 11/28/2006 10:56:06 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: arizonarachel
God bless you and your hubby as well!

When the Mrs. and I were not having any luck getting her pregnant, she went to her OB/Gyn who said, "Try harder!" All of our male friends wanted to know who the doctor was ;-)

I guess the point is that we both still love children even though we have no more of our own. Of course, we still expect parents to keep control of theirs and not allow them to be screaming brats in public. When we used to take our son to church, we always sat next to the exit into the other part of the building so one of us could take care of any fussing or crying without disturbing anyone else.
83 posted on 11/28/2006 10:57:44 AM PST by RebelBanker (It is, however somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.)
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To: Barney Gumble

I'd rather people that like children have lots of them, and people who don't want children have none of them.


84 posted on 11/28/2006 10:57:45 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: juliej

I have no children, but am always ready to assist pregnant ladies and mothers with small children.


There is however a limit, such as having to work extra hours because a co-worker just HAD TO take little Elijha and Megan to a soccer tournement.


85 posted on 11/28/2006 10:57:54 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: nmh

You did read the whole article, and see that she had a stillbirth, right? Why are you so angry with her?


86 posted on 11/28/2006 10:58:28 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: wideawake

You seem to be on some mission to uncover all sorts of child-hating, pro abortion motives on this thread.

"brood: A family of offspring or young."


87 posted on 11/28/2006 10:58:33 AM PST by pa mom
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To: wideawake

That is what I mean - and don't you dare bring them onto the subway!


88 posted on 11/28/2006 10:59:03 AM PST by juliej
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To: linda_22003
Your premise seems to be that women should have children for the Fatherland.

If women don't have children for the Fatherland, who's going to?

And after we get done importing all of the Hispanics to make up for the children those women should have had, will there be much of a Fatherland left, or will we be calling it Patria and hailing the the newest Latin American dictator as our el Presidente?

89 posted on 11/28/2006 10:59:12 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: wideawake

My sister-in-law had 6 kids, and didn't do a great job raising them. One of them has been in and out of jail. Another one is in her early 20s and already has 4 children out-of-wedlock.


90 posted on 11/28/2006 10:59:38 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Tijeras_Slim

What if a child were ill?????


91 posted on 11/28/2006 10:59:41 AM PST by juliej
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To: cyborg; Millee; pissant
Plus you can raise your children perfectly and someone can come along and ruin your hard work.

Just put Mille's and pissants threads oth the other side of the firewall. :)

92 posted on 11/28/2006 10:59:45 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: durasell
Go to any large city, find the low income neighborhood and you'll see it.

Except for the past 3 years, I've lived my entire life in either NYC or Chicago.

There are plenty of unsupervised children running around, but rarely do such children have more than one parent in common.

I'm talking about families where all the children are the natural or legally adopted children of the same two parents.

Clearly a woman who is having three or more children by three or more different men is not going to be a fit parent to even one child.

93 posted on 11/28/2006 10:59:54 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Last Laugh
With a slightly raised voice, enough so others could hear, she began lecturing me about the selfishness of women who do not have children, how they are denying their husbands, denying society, etc.

Cripes. Are some people born bitchy, or is there a special school that trains them?

94 posted on 11/28/2006 10:59:55 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: WolfRunnerWoman

Thanks, but I'm used to the ham-fisted attempts, and they roll right off. Some people just have a bee in their bonnet on the subject, and can turn World Series threads into abortion threads ("Well, they might have had a decent shortstop if he hadn't been aborted...."). You just have to expect that sort of stuff around here. :)


95 posted on 11/28/2006 11:00:15 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Tijeras_Slim

HEH!


96 posted on 11/28/2006 11:00:31 AM PST by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: juliej
What if a child were ill?????

Not at all the same as providing for a child's leisure activities. That wouldn't bother me a bit.

97 posted on 11/28/2006 11:01:18 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Barney Gumble

I actively decided not to have children, but it's ok. I do not own anything by Prada.


98 posted on 11/28/2006 11:01:42 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Campion

I think a lot of people are producing future little soldiers, since that seems to be your overarching concern. :)


99 posted on 11/28/2006 11:03:20 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003

LOL. I have no kids either. I saw a Prada bag once. What do they use it for? A coin purse?


100 posted on 11/28/2006 11:04:34 AM PST by WolfRunnerWoman (Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole.)
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