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Long Beach Teens Face Hate Crimes Charges
The L. A. Times ^ | 11/22/06 | Hector Beccerra and

Posted on 11/27/2006 7:24:05 PM PST by BnBlFlag

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To: spinestein
Perhaps the decades of race baiting opportunists constantly blaming 'whitey' for all the ills of black America have something to do with it.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, among others, share a portion of the responsibility for this shameful behavior.

The school desegregation fiasco proves inadequate leadership in the black community. They were handed the opportunity to prove whites wrong, who said integration would ruin their schools, by pushing their people to do their best. What a shame.

21 posted on 11/27/2006 9:54:22 PM PST by Razz Barry
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To: BnBlFlag

Whaaaat? Where's Sharpton Crying that 'those Crackahs had it comming'? http://sacredscoop.com


22 posted on 11/27/2006 10:14:10 PM PST by CottShop
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To: BnBlFlag

And this boys and girls is how stereotypes become stereotypes....


23 posted on 11/28/2006 12:03:48 AM PST by hatfieldmccoy (Satan has a new name and it is Islam)
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To: BnBlFlag

btt for the morning shift


24 posted on 11/28/2006 3:55:18 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Brad's Gramma; All
Thank you for the ping, Sweetie.

Everyone, if you haven't been following this story and would like to know more, here are some more links.

The victims share stories of the attack : here

Long Beach officials want a Hate Crime definition so tight it would not include the Reginald Denny beating in the Rodney King riots: here

Excellent report on the neighborhood "Kumbaya" meeting in which the local councilwoman attacked the media, saying she didn't want this "incident" to get as much coverage as it has; said meeting was NOT supposed to get out beyond those "directly affected" (because surely no one in SoCal needs to know that white teens can be marauded by wild packs of murderous black youths): here

Here is the Long Beach Press Telegram's public spanking of the councilwoman: here

NAACP does a little tap-dancing but condemns the vicious attack: here

25 posted on 11/28/2006 12:23:07 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: BnBlFlag

Please see my previous post. I should have pinged ya to it.


26 posted on 11/28/2006 12:23:46 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Councilwoman Gabelich got elected for her vehement opposition to airport flight increases and noise, in my opinion. I guess she didn't want any bad publicity about the neighborhood after the beatings, which indicates her level of concern for her consituents.

I've always wondered if she is a relative of the late Gary Gabelich, world class auto racer. We used to go watch him at Lion's Dragstrip in the 60's. Of course as more homes were built in that area, the residents complained about the dragster noise until the strip was finally shut down and the property used for something more commercially profitable than keeping kids off the street.


27 posted on 11/28/2006 12:38:24 PM PST by Mjaye
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To: Mjaye

I believe that was her late husband? Yes, I would say that she got elected for her work on the airport. I voted for her myself. She is a nice woman and has a special needs child (adult now). I do disagree with her that this crime doesn't need tons of publicity, though. By hushing it, we condone crimes by some people. We would NEVER have hushed it had the victims been black. I wouldn't be able to get my car out of the garage with the marches by Jesse Jackson and Al.


28 posted on 11/28/2006 1:53:38 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Mjaye

"I've always wondered if she is a relative of the late Gary Gabelich, world class auto racer."

Rae Gabelich is indeed the widow of the late Gary Gabelich, who was tragically killed in a motorcycle accident in the early-to-mid '80s. Gary held the world land speed record, which he set at the Bonneville Salt Flats while driving the Blue Flame.


29 posted on 11/28/2006 2:04:15 PM PST by doctor noe
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To: BnBlFlag

I'd love to see that girl lose her full scholarship after this. But knowing PC the way I do, USC will probably giver her a medal in diversity.


30 posted on 11/28/2006 2:12:11 PM PST by MissouriConservative (Libertarian = aid and comfort to the democratic party)
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To: doctor noe; Yaelle

That's interesting that she is his widow. And it's still ironic to me that the noise issue has been a big one for her as it was for her husband, in opposite ways.

With respect to the beatings, it makes me very nervous when councilpersons or other elected officials try to keep something quiet. I understand she didn't wish to have the crime spread all over the media and sensationalized, but given the racial implications, people deserved a complete set of facts. And she needn't have worried, this incident has generated nowhere near the publicity that the opposite type of racially-motivated crime would have engendered. At least Jesse and Al haven't showed up as far as I know, though they'll be supporting the perpetrators, I'm sure.


31 posted on 11/28/2006 3:43:04 PM PST by Mjaye
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To: Mjaye
"Councilwoman Gabelich got elected for her vehement opposition to airport flight increases and noise" Rae has been a great champion for the neighborhoods in regards to her opposition to needless airport expansion. The airport is essentially maxed out in terms of its economic impact to the city. If the number of flights were to double, the airport's impact on the general fund would be relatively modest. However, in terms of its impact on property values, it could potentially be devastating. The big argument now is how to proceed with expansion to accommodate current flight levels. If the financing mechanism for expansion is tied to the general fund, that would be a very financially irresponsible thing to do. The city is still paying for its irresponsible mistake of tying the financing mechanism for the aquarium to the general fund. The aquarium will never pay for itself.

While Rae has been on the right side of the airport issue, she was very wrong about her handling of the Halloween attack.

32 posted on 11/28/2006 3:58:14 PM PST by doctor noe
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To: doctor noe

While Rae has been on the right side of the airport issue, she was very wrong about her handling of the Halloween attack.<<<<<

A quick digression to the airport issue: I have mixed feelings; I'm in another district, but have lived under the flight pattern most all my life. People have been telling us that our property values would be declining with each new airline that has come to town since the early 50's. We were told that the east/west runways would be brought into our neighborhoods.

All I can say is that houses that sold for 10-11K next to the airport in '50 are going for between 600K and 700K, average now. And since every single person in this area knew there was an airport here that might someday expand, why would they complain now?

Of course I'm waiting to see what people will move in to the Douglas properties at the north edge of the airport; I certainly hope they will not complain afterward about the noise:)


33 posted on 11/28/2006 4:22:02 PM PST by Mjaye
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To: Mjaye
"I'm in another district, but have lived under the flight pattern most all my life. People have been telling us that our property values would be declining with each new airline that has come to town since the early 50's. We were told that the east/west runways would be brought into our neighborhoods."

Up until JetBlue came to LB, we had approx. 15 flights/day. For a short period of time in the 80's, we were at about 40 flights/day, which is where we are now. At this level, we are just about maxed out when it comes to both the legal noise limit and economic impact. Pro expansion forces would like to see at least a doubling of flights, which I firmly believe would start to take its toll on property values, at least in areas closest to the takeoff/landing footprints. This, I believe, would negate any marginally positive additional economic benefits generated by full-blown expansion. I support modernization of the terminal only if we do it without creating additional capacity for more flights. The only way to do this is to make sure that we do not build additional aircraft parking spaces and to disallow any 2-story structures that could accommodate jetways.

34 posted on 11/29/2006 9:00:24 AM PST by doctor noe
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To: doctor noe

I don't particulary want or need more flights, but would like to not chase off the ones we have. We definitely need to modernize the facilities. I'd like to be able to use them, and what we have now is a joke, though I do love the old building and hope it isn't destroyed.


35 posted on 11/29/2006 9:08:51 AM PST by Mjaye
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To: Tax-chick

They should be tried as adults.

Some black males also participated heavily. In fact, from the first stories circulating, it was black males who actually started beating the young white women, and the black girls ganged on. There were thirty-one attackers in all, all black, shouting things at the white girls about hating white people, "I'll beat your white ass", "All whites need a beat-down", "I'll kill your white ass, you mother-fing white bitch," and so on.

It was Larry Elder, a black journalist and SoCal radio talk show host that brought this story to the forefront. The big papers in SoCal hadn't even run the story as of at least ten days after it happened and at that time the DA was saying he saw no reason to prosecute it as a hate crime.

Bunch of racist cowards. They only pull this crap when they're in groups.


36 posted on 11/30/2006 1:08:16 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Eagles6

Listen, one of these white girls was almost killed. She was in a coma and was apparently blinded in one eye and may suffer permanent brain damage. The other two were also seriously injured but not permanently, as far as I know. This wasn't just some kids hurling pumpkins on Halloween. There were thirty-one attackers, and some were young men. It was one of the most vicious attacks I have ever heard of, and I am retired from 32 years in LE. This was a vicious, evil, hate-filled beat-down based on racial hatred by blacks against whites, and if you think it's an isolated incident, boy have I got a bridge to sell you. Racial hatred of whites now is part of a sizable segment of black culture in America, it's growing, and it's taught to them from the cradle.

But leave it to the LA Slimes to play down the entire matter and not give all the details which are otherwise widely known. They didn't even run the story until the public outcry began as a result of talk radio picking up the story.


37 posted on 11/30/2006 1:18:24 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: dhs12345

As of ten days after the event, the story had only run in two major papers, the Orange County Register (I believe - or else it was San Diego) and - check this out - the Chicago Tribune! Not the LA Times, the largest paper by far in SoCal, not the Long Beach paper, not in San Francisco, not anywhere else in CA!


38 posted on 11/30/2006 1:21:38 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Sender

Okay, I stand corrected. It was the Long Beach paper, not the OC Register.


39 posted on 11/30/2006 1:23:07 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Yaelle

If the victims had been black, the NYT, the WaPo, the Boston Globe, and every other major newspaper in the country, every news outlet, and every morning talk show would be carrying it day and night. Look at the hoopla they made over the Kramer thing. Big deal. A drunken rant by a Hollyweirdo in response to perhaps one too many black hecklers. Now the hecklers are demanding money because they need it to "heal." Every black race merchant would be on every cable talk show and it would still be going on now, a month after the event. There would be newspaper columns ad infinitum and the congressional black caucus would be calling for special hearings on violence against blacks, even though black-on-white crime is about nine times what white-on-black crime is, with blacks numbering 1/7th of the white population. Adjusted on a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more racial crimes against whites than vice versa. 90% of race crime victims are white victims of black perpetrators, and a white is 18 times more likely to be murdered by a black than a black is to be murdered by a white.

But no congressional hearings on that. Why not? Because the hue and cry from the race merchants and their moronic handmaidens in the media would destroy anyone bringing such an issue to the fore.


40 posted on 11/30/2006 2:16:12 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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