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If daily newspapers are dying, blame Craigslist (Dinosaur Media DeathWatchâ„¢)
PBS.org ^ | November 23, 2006 | Robert X. Cringely

Posted on 11/27/2006 12:27:08 PM PST by abb

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GONE WITH THE WIND - 2006

"There was a land of Publishers and Editors called the Newspaper Business... Here in this pretty world Journalism took its last bow... Here was the last ever to be seen of Reporters and their Enablers, of Anonymous Sources and of Stringers... Look for it only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered. A Civilization Gone With the Wind..."

With apologies to Margaret Mitchell...

1 posted on 11/27/2006 12:27:10 PM PST by abb
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2 posted on 11/27/2006 12:27:46 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

Dino media dying, blame the real cause, lies, to many lies, not enough truth. The current media does Pravda proud.


3 posted on 11/27/2006 12:29:20 PM PST by Tarpon
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To: abb

It is tough to compete with "free".

Really, the only thing that can compete with "free" is "better", but some things don't lend themselves much to "better". Then you have to dupe people by packaging.
Which works with things that people WANT to do (like buy chic water...drawn from a tap somewhere else and put in a bottle and sold dearer than gasoline).
But it doesn't work with things people don't want to do, like "I lost my puppy" ads.


4 posted on 11/27/2006 12:35:45 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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To: abb
Water is also "free" yet some people pay $2 a bottle for it - it all comes down to quality (which nearly all left wing newspapers don't have).
5 posted on 11/27/2006 12:42:25 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Really, the only thing that can compete with "free" is "better",

Health care in Canada is free. People who can afford and want better travel to the US.

Newspapers are getting slain by technology and their walnut-brained dinosaur inability to figure out new ways to make money when the old ways can be done for free.

6 posted on 11/27/2006 12:45:34 PM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: 2banana
it all comes down to quality (which nearly all left wing newspapers don't have).

And yet, Democrats win, NYT wins, Seymour Hersh wins, UN wins, North Korea wins, David Gregory wins, Geroge Soros wins, etc.

It all comes down to a lack of content that matters---NOT quality, seems to me.

7 posted on 11/27/2006 1:00:45 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: abb

It's nice to see the Lefties eating their own.


8 posted on 11/27/2006 1:14:03 PM PST by keithtoo (Moveon.org is a cult, Freerepublic is the cure.....)
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To: abb
The only real lesson to learn from Craigslist is, itself, anathema to eBay. What makes Craigslist special is that it is, for the most part, free. And the only way to compete with Craigslist is by making any competitive service free, too, which eBay is rightly unwilling to do.

With eBay, you get buyer and seller protection to some degree. None on Craigslist. And, from just a one-time test of Craigslist just now, the search feature isn't anywhere near as user friendly. I can find items from all over the world with one search on eBay, but here I have to connect to each individual area's database and hope to find it? I might take it more seriously if it could pull listings from any market. Maybe it can and I just haven't figured it out yet.
9 posted on 11/27/2006 1:27:46 PM PST by Rastus
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Interesting overview of the media in 2006:

A Media Whirlwind in Review

Of course they lump in the profitable sale of Clear Channel in with the expected sale of the Times, as if they were all being done for the same reason.

10 posted on 11/27/2006 1:36:10 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: abb

The only thing I questions is how tough Craig's list is as eBay's competition.

eBay is nearly free, and has a great search engine and database that covers the nation/world. Unless there is some feature I haven't found, Craigslist is useful only for local purchases (used snowblower).


11 posted on 11/27/2006 1:44:36 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Rastus

I might take it more seriously if it could pull listings from any market. Maybe it can and I just haven't figured it out yet.



Let me know if you do. I couldn't figure out any easy way. If I'm buying a DVD set, I don't care what part of the nation it comes from, and don't need to do face-to-face (though eBay reputation is a good safety.)


12 posted on 11/27/2006 1:46:22 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: abb

index for later.


13 posted on 11/27/2006 1:47:33 PM PST by smonk
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To: abb
I don't buy it! Convince me.

Nancee

14 posted on 11/27/2006 1:50:21 PM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: Rastus

Well.. you can't really compare ebay to your local newspaper ads either. The ads in the paper (for the most part) are for local people selling local items, and there's no buyer protection. Craigslist emulates that, except in an electronic and FREE format.

I do have a recent experience with craigslist, and it was very positive. I sold an old farm tractor that I owned for many years. First, I paid $38 to have it advertised in the local paper for a full 4 weeks (included other smaller community papers as well). I got ZERO responses. I then put it on craigslist and got 3 responses within a few days, and had it sold within a week.

I agree that it's ONE of the things helping to kill the old media, but there are many other things killing it as well.


15 posted on 11/27/2006 1:50:50 PM PST by Dubya-M-Dees (Mary Mapes was the first in the MSM that had to participate in an election by the people... she lost)
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To: abb

Say what you will, but the MSM still managed to throw this past election to the liberals. At least they lost money while doing it.


16 posted on 11/27/2006 1:51:04 PM PST by pabianice
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To: abb

This column reeks of arrogance.

He may have to find a job in the real world where *those* people work and he is terrified at the prospect.


17 posted on 11/27/2006 1:53:53 PM PST by Tall_Texan (NO McCain, Rudy, Romney, Hillary, Kerry, Obama or Gore in 2008!)
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To: abb

What a scattered set of metaphors, all those eyeballs rolling dizzyingly across a table script endlessly with dodging dollar signs.


18 posted on 11/27/2006 1:57:21 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Dubya-M-Dees

In that respect, it sounds like a good deal. I've just been looking for an item on eBay with no success and thought maybe I'd strike gold on Craiglist until I found that it only searched Dallas, only searched San Francisco, etc.


19 posted on 11/27/2006 2:02:56 PM PST by Rastus
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Yeah, eBay's great for that kind of thing. I've had a run of bad luck with things getting broken in shipping lately, but at least they were insured. Before that, I'd done well over a hundred transactions with no problems at all.


20 posted on 11/27/2006 2:04:26 PM PST by Rastus
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