This has become a circular argument, and you still insist that the twins have done something wrong just by being in a foreign country, having dinner and going to a soccer game.
If that's what you choose to believe in spite of the truth, more power to you, durasell.
There is something to be said for stubbornness of mind in the face of facts to the contrary of one's opinion. I'm just not sure what.....
Good night.
I am a stubborn one I have to be. Yes I'll argue a point I know I'm right on. I have had to do it many times to get the required results.
I'll argue with a doctor when I know I'm right for example and one night I almost went to the point of going off physically on one who denied preforming prudent medical protocols. I was right enough any jury no matter how conservative in a criminal or civil court would not have convicted me.
I have been in a not quite as serious reverse Schavio position before but thank GOD the COMA was reversible. Getting the doctors to even recognize a COMA was the problem. Long story but a FR debate in which I was wrong in made me think in a manner needed at the time. Those Freepers you would likely call Tinfoilers or Kooks but they were right about a potentially fatal medical condition that can occur when doctors are lax with SSRI's. I later thanked those Freepers I can give you user names if you wish. Six doctors missed an acute Serotonin Syndrome diagnoses. They missed it not once but twice. I had to face a possibility of taking a loved one by force if necessary out of state. I went as far as discussing it with family members involved. That is why I nearly decked an E.R. doctor. He refused to even check for stroke or do a Brain Scan CAT or MRI. As a result of their failure to do basic diagnostic protocol a mild stroke occured with that person.
You know even when I showed the doctors the medical alert from their own Professor of Pharmacology they still said rubbish.
I have fought against a nightmare medical care system created by Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, and supported by a RINO governor afterward as well as the current U.S. senate majority leader in my home state. Yea I'm stubborn I have to be. I believe what government funds it should have accountability for. Bill Frist does not nor Hillary. I learned many Republicans are as much socialist as the DEMs in many cases. In that respect I don't support the ones who are including ones like Frist. For example it was within Frist power to end Hillary Care in my state. Instead he helped secure funding. He then used the nightmare he supported in Tennessee and turned it into Medicare reform. That is one reason why Senate candidate Corker did not get my vote but neither did Dem Ford. You see Corker was a Finance Commissioner to the RINO governor we had who tried to bankrupt the state and let Hillary Care HMO fraud run rampant. His solution was pushing for a state income tax. It didn't work. Oddly enough we have had a DEM governor just elected to a second term who despite being a self proclaimed Liberal is the most conservative governor we have had in my life time even more conservative than RINO Lamar Alexander who also supported the former RINO governors wrongs. That is why I vote Independent.
I'm stubborn enough I have stood alone against a federal agency who tried to abuse Eminent Domain Laws against me. I was threatened with the prospect of a visit from a U.S. Marshall to by force take land that was not rightfully compensated for. In short I was lied to on a right of way agreement and paid one third of the land they actually took. Instead of a Marshall a real-estate clerk showed up with a tree stump counter. Because I was stubborn three neighbors they also ran over got just compensation also. Now I am level headed and smart enough I gave that agency no cause to try and arrest me.
I'm stubborn enough one night on the ship I disobeyed a LT Commanders direct order and was not disciplined for it. I quoted him the Command Duty Officers standing order and was ordered three times to disobey it by him and once by a Marine Captain. I called the bluff and said let's go talk to the Captain about your order sir if he agrees with you I will obey.
When I'm wrong I back down and I backed down on this thread after information was stated that said the event did not happen. What I did not back down on was saying Freepers were wrong to encourage the POTUS daughters to do something very dangerous and stupid. The one who actually said it was the one who got the post stating such initially. Go back and look.
What I am saying is I can not be intimidated by someones cute mind games trying to make me look a fool when the message was clear. I backed off several times saying the incident did not happen. Not one Freeper who posted irresponsibly cheering them on however did. Maybe you should ask them why. The game might have worked except I was not the only poster trying to make the exact same point of the danger Freepers were cheering on. Yea it was obvious what was being done and it did not work Checkmate :>}