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W library in record book ($500M center would be priciest for a Prez)
New York Daily News ^
| November 27, 2006
| THOMAS M. DeFRANK
Posted on 11/27/2006 2:23:56 AM PST by RWR8189
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To: backtothestreets
No, it's actually quite comfortable. I'm all the more comfortable and also rather pleased knowing deficits and discretionary spending are not the same.I had posted that chart to support your posts. I am on your side regarding Bush's unrepentant spending.
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posted on
11/27/2006 5:44:23 AM PST
by
raybbr
(You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
To: McGavin999
"So, you think it's OK that the people elected a republcan congress and a republican senate and expect a republican president to veto them? How about the congress do it's job?"
As a matter of fact, I not only believe it OK, but admirable when a person has the courage, conviction, and strength of character to stand against those nearest to himself when they are doing something wrong. That's what leadership is. It has been quite commonplace in the history of our nation for presidents to veto legislation despite their own party controlling both house of Congress.
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posted on
11/27/2006 5:45:53 AM PST
by
backtothestreets
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To: backtothestreets
Ah, so you think the president should disregard the will of the people when it comes to the duty assigned to congress by the constitution?
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posted on
11/27/2006 5:48:53 AM PST
by
McGavin999
(Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
To: backtothestreets
You know, I seem to recall all kinds of people going off the deep end about the deficits caused by Reagan too.
Sure, we could have eliminated most of the deficit by telling New York they have to fix their own hole, and tell the airlines that Americans would rather walk than have to subsidise the airlines. We also could have avoided all that military spending too just by coming up with some kind of theory about fuel lines or something causing those "accidents" at the WTC.
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posted on
11/27/2006 5:52:01 AM PST
by
McGavin999
(Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
To: Wonder Warthog
"Better yet--don't build it with anybody's money, and close all the rest of the damned "library pyramids". "Presidential Library" my a**. "
I'm with you! Unfortunately, most people in our nation, including "conservatives", have a difficult time separating themselves from anything begun by FDR.
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posted on
11/27/2006 5:59:17 AM PST
by
backtothestreets
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To: raybbr
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posted on
11/27/2006 6:05:47 AM PST
by
backtothestreets
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To: RWR8189
Will W's library be built by ILLEGAL aliens - building presidential libraries no American is willing to build??
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posted on
11/27/2006 6:14:59 AM PST
by
DTogo
(I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
To: McGavin999
"Ah, so you think the president should disregard the will of the people when it comes to the duty assigned to congress by the constitution?"
Dang right I do, and apparently the framers of the Constitution felt the same way or they wouldn't have made accommodations for the president, beginning with George Washington, to veto bills passed by Congress.
You find no provision in U.S. Const., Article I, Section 7, stating presidents should neglect this responsibility when their pals control both houses of Congress.
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posted on
11/27/2006 6:16:14 AM PST
by
backtothestreets
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To: backtothestreets
No, I think the people have an opportunity to change congress every two years. The fact that the people didn't do that until 2006 probably told Dubya that they were doing their constituants will. Considering he needed the support of congress in order to fight the WOT, I think he did what he thought was best, just as Reagan did what HE thought was best when he upped the military budget during his tenure.
Are you too young to remember all the screaming and moaning about the deficits during the Reagan administration?
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posted on
11/27/2006 6:20:07 AM PST
by
McGavin999
(Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
To: McGavin999
"Yeah, and.......? What part of CONGRESS HOLDS THE PURSE STRINGS don't you get? "
Doesn't the President have a little thing called a veto?
To: SmoothTalker
Pay attention, that's what we've been discussing on this thread.
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posted on
11/27/2006 6:21:02 AM PST
by
McGavin999
(Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
To: McGavin999
"We also could have avoided all that military spending too just by coming up with some kind of theory about fuel lines or something causing those "accidents" at the WTC."
We could have avoided a great deal of that military spending had our military been allowed to chase down the Al Qaeda and Taliban devils into Pakistan and by just leveling Iraq at the very beginning of that war.
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posted on
11/27/2006 6:21:30 AM PST
by
backtothestreets
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To: backtothestreets
Oh yeah, just a nice little walk in the park, those Hindu Kush mountains are nothing, just ask the Russians.
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posted on
11/27/2006 6:31:58 AM PST
by
McGavin999
(Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
To: RWR8189
But Bush partisans are determined to have a massive pile of endowment cash to spread the gospel of a presidency that for now gets poor marks from many scholars and a majority of Americans. No bias here.
To: McGavin999
Military spending during a time of war is good reason to incur deficits. Unfortunately, all the debts incurred during the GW BUSH administration were not defense related. Hundreds of billions were wasted on boondoggles. And it wasn't even our money being spent, but the money of future generations.
Now, you wonder if I am old enough to remember the Reagan deficits. Indeed I do. But I am also old enough to have experienced the lingering effects WWII on our nation, and the difficult choices made by that generation to act most prudent to guard what we have as there was no assurance it could be easily replaced tomorrow.
By his own admission, President GW Bush has stated the WOT may last decades. Because the enemy rising against us is in a region of the world that controls the vast oil and gas resources our nation is dependent upon, and if things turn very ugly, as they did during the Arab induced Oil Embargo during the Yom Kippur War, the wasteful spending of this administration will have us on our knees.
To win the war we must harden ourselves, not just militarily, but financially and with utmost respect for our limited mineral resources.
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posted on
11/27/2006 6:52:12 AM PST
by
backtothestreets
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To: backtothestreets
Riiiigt. And you actually think that a soft and pampered people would put up with "utmost respect for our limited mineral resources." LOL, what color is the sky in your world? Half this country isn't even aware there is a war. Most of this country was totally unaware of what Clinton did to our military. This war can't be fought like WWI or WWII, the days of Dresden, Hirosima are GONE. There is no way the US will EVER be able to fight a war like that again because our own people won't allow it.
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posted on
11/27/2006 6:56:08 AM PST
by
McGavin999
(Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
To: DTogo
Ha!
I bet he'll have that Mexican pamphlet that tells how to illegally enter the US.
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posted on
11/27/2006 7:00:55 AM PST
by
antisocial
(Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
To: RWR8189
A lot of Mexicans can be employed with $500 million.
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posted on
11/27/2006 7:01:01 AM PST
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: backtothestreets
Apparently Congress never allocated a buck for even a cheap pen made in China the President could have used to veto the appropriation bills they passed. No, but they did find the funds for a rubber stamp.
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posted on
11/27/2006 7:04:13 AM PST
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: antisocial
It's certainly part of W's "legacy."
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posted on
11/27/2006 7:08:42 AM PST
by
DTogo
(I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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