THE 'EURABIA' MYTH

New York Post ^ | November 26, 2006 | Ralph Peters

[Knitting A Conundrum]

And as a careful watcher of anything involving the Islamicist movement, I can tell there has been a new ferment coming up...there's a lot more anti-Islam incidents. Some government responses...I don't know if it's a sea change yet, but the people in Europe seem to be getting tired of it...and that soccer hooligan streak is getting itchy.

[stormer]

I would agree that the Brookings Institution is a left-of-center organization, however, I wouldn't expect the Weekly Standard to adhere as strict a level of scholarship (it is little more than a right-wing version of Time). I have trouble with the 2002 figure of 8 million; where did this come from and who are "most sociologists? Nothing I have seen is close.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4385768.stm#france
http://www.islamonline.net/iol-english/dowalia/europe-14-1-2000/europe1.asp
http://www.migrationinformation.org/feature/display.cfm?ID=153
http://www.fides.org/eng/news/2004/0406/19_2757.html

[brwnsuga]

We won't allow Europe to fall to islam anyway.

We? Who is this "we"? Let the Europeans take care of their own Frankenstein. They are the ones who want to be so liberal and open. Let them eat their own just desserts.

[rottndog]

"...It may become very bloody..."

I hope so. It seems that the only thing the muzzies understand and respect is the shedding of blood. The sooner it happens the better.

[Cruz]

Europe has two to three decades to wake up.

[Blackirish]

I is we. Europe is worth saving.

[Spacewalker]

I feel it too every time I go to Europe... The people are fed up...

[Blackirish]

...I don't know if it's a sea change yet, but the people in Europe seem to be getting tired of it...and that soccer hooligan streak is getting itchy.

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I think in certain corners of the West from Holland, France, Netherlands, England and the US are waking up to the fact that inevitably ...it may be a while... but inevitably...we are are going to have to get medieval on Islam.

[Blackirish]

...I don't know if it's a sea change yet, but the people in Europe seem to be getting tired of it...and that soccer hooligan streak is getting itchy.

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I think in certain corners of the West from Holland, France, Netherlands, England and the US are waking up to the fact that inevitably ...it may be a while... but inevitably...we are are going to have to get medieval on Islam.

[xsmommy]

excellent, glad he confronted the piece headon.

[gogogodzilla]

The article still doesn't address the fact that Europe, by and large, is not producing enough children to simply maintain their current population levels.

Who will do the necessary fighting if there no people to do so? 60-year olds?

[Knitting A Conundrum]

people who track this should stop reading what the bigwigs say and start looking at what's actually happening in the street..

I can only do it from the news, but it's perculating. I see it from anti-Muslim violence in Scotland to the reaction when that opera was cancelled in Germany. People are saying "no."

[TheRedSoxWinThePennant]

this premise is the basis of Steyn's book America Alone, the end of the world as we know it. Very chilling stuff. Its not just europe either. they could be a majority voting bloc in Russia by 2050.

[Spacewalker]

True, but part of it is the result of policies that can be reversed...

And o fight the moozies, you don't need a massive army...

[Pelayo]

The author mistakenly confuses the Europe of 80 years ago with today, where many citizens can no longer own or carry guns. His arguments fail to recognize the impact of political correctness.

Are you saying that 'political correctness' and lack of privately owned weapons are bar to state organized oppression?

[Pelayo]

There are no official numbers on muslims in France, because collecting such data is against the law.

I just had a scary thought; that could be convenient.

[Pelayo]

The article still doesn't address the fact that Europe, by and large, is not producing enough children to simply maintain their current population levels.

Who will do the necessary fighting if there no people to do so? 60-year olds?

Hopefully if fighting does start it could be the impetus for renewed birthrates. Historically danger has often had that effect.

[Pelayo]

Again, the religipous symbols were banned in 1905 while the French revolution took place in 1789.

It's all part of the same though. Robespierre for example wanted to remove church Steeples from the Parisian skyline because they were un-democratic.

[EternalHope]

You might find this interesting:
Symposium: Muslims in France: A Ticking Time Bomb?

Cagaptay: Here is the picture: percentage-wise as well as in cumulative terms, France has the largest Muslim community in the EU. There are no official figures, since France does not collect numbers on religious affiliation, but according to official estimates, there are 6 million Muslims in France, that is 10 percent of the population. Unofficial estimates point at an even higher figure, suggesting as many as 8-9 million Muslims.

[LiberalBassTurds]

"Allah Mode"...superb article. Thanks for the link.

LBT
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