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The mystery of Litvinenko's death
BBC News ^ | 12/24/2006 | Tom Geoghegan

Posted on 11/25/2006 12:59:26 PM PST by GarySpFc

The death bed statement by Alexander Litvinenko blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for the poison he believes took his life. But will we ever know with certainty who was responsible?

While the Health Protection Agency says Mr Litvinenko was poisoned with the radioactive substance polonium-210, the question of who was responsible persists.

The former spy's two meetings in central London on 1 November, in Piccadilly and Mayfair, may hold the key to the identity of his killer.

The former KGB agent made enemies Friends of the 43-year-old have blamed the Russian security service (FSB), as Mr Litvinenko accused it of many abuses, including the bombing of a block of flats in 1999, killing 300 people.

Others had linked his sickness directly to another focus of his criticisms, former KGB agent Putin.

Any involvement has been dismissed by the Kremlin as "nonsense", a sentiment echoed by Russia's foreign intelligence service.

The matter is now in the hands of Scotland Yard, which is investigating the case as an "unexplained death".

Security analyst Glenmore Trenear-Harvey, who met Mr Litvinenko several times, said the media focus on the Kremlin was "lazy" and bore the hallmarks of a John Le Carre novel.

"We have to put this in a historical context," he said.

"Litvinenko's last job within the FSB was heading up the anti-corruption unit and he discovered a lot of corruption there and made a lot of enemies within the KGB."

When Yeltsin broke the KGB into different agencies such as the FSB and the SVR, the majority of its members stayed on but some went into the Duma and a third group went into legitimate business, he said.

But a "murky bunch" went into what was known as the Russian mafia.

Sophisticated poison

"My own belief, and this is speculation, is that it's not inconceivable that Anna Politkovskaya in her search for murderers within the Russian bank system discovered the contract killings were these former KGB people.

"She was killed and if Litvinenko indeed was privy to her investigations then it could well be that they will emerge as his killers."

Although the sophisticated nature of the poison suggested it could have come from the state, there was no motive, he said.

The case has caused huge interest in the UK "There was no benefit to Putin or Russian intelligence services to have a highly publicised operation like this."

And despite the continued claims linking Putin, diplomatic relationships between the UK and Russia were unlikely to be affected, he said.

Alex Pravda, an expert in Russia foreign policy and a member of international analysis organisation Chatham House, believes it is too early to say who was responsible.

"There's a lack of clarity in all this. It's a matter of speculation and I think we have to wait until there's better evidence," he said.

And the lack of coordination between Russian government and other agencies made it difficult to point the finger with any certainty, he said.

What has characterised the Litvinenko case from the start has been the way one explanation has been quickly replaced by another.

It was thallium. No, it was radioactive thallium. No, it was a cocktail of drugs. No, it was a mystery object. Now polonium-210 has been identifed.

Given the days of uncertainty about what killed him, the matter of who killed him may never be resolved.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: litvinenko; russia
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"We have to put this in a historical context," he said.

"Litvinenko's last job within the FSB was heading up the anti-corruption unit and he discovered a lot of corruption there and made a lot of enemies within the KGB."
When Yeltsin broke the KGB into different agencies such as the FSB and the SVR, the majority of its members stayed on but some went into the Duma and a third group went into legitimate business, he said.

But a "murky bunch" went into what was known as the Russian mafia.

1 posted on 11/25/2006 12:59:29 PM PST by GarySpFc
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To: GarySpFc

If he was killed by a gov't team, the matter of who killed him will never be resolved. Misinformation and disinformation are being spread in the media like warm butter.


2 posted on 11/25/2006 1:09:01 PM PST by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: GarySpFc

Thats the thing I cant understand. Why did we have to wait until he was dead for them to discover he was radioactive and pelonium was the killer?


3 posted on 11/25/2006 1:11:23 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Why did we have to wait until he was dead for them to discover he was radioactive and pelonium was the killer?

I may be wrong, but I read somewhere this type of poison cannot be detected by a Geiger counter.
4 posted on 11/25/2006 1:13:37 PM PST by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: sgtbono2002
This may surprise some who accuse me of being pro-Putin, but it may have been him or the SVR. Rogue elements in the FSB or Russian government are also a possibility. However, if I were a betting man I would put my money on the Berezovsky gang.
5 posted on 11/25/2006 1:19:30 PM PST by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: B4Ranch

"If he was killed by a gov't team, the matter of who killed him will never be resolved."

Fill in the blank PUTIN_



http://www.baranovfamily.org/


6 posted on 11/25/2006 1:31:03 PM PST by spanalot
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To: spanalot

It's Pootie-Poo.


7 posted on 11/25/2006 1:48:52 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: GarySpFc
Is there anyone here who can translate Russian? I am curious about what he is talking about.

Alexander Litvinenko at the Frontline Club

8 posted on 11/25/2006 1:54:14 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: GarySpFc
Alex Pravda, an expert in Russia foreign policy

Well named, indeed.

Frankly, this is a bunch of nonsense, the leftist flakes at the BBC, now one of the most ideologically corrupt news organizations in the world, sticking up for their old friends in the Soviet Nomenklatura.

9 posted on 11/25/2006 1:56:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GarySpFc
This line of arguing (which parrots Russian Duma's statement, btw) looks like coming directly from Gogol's "The Auditor" comedy play - there responsible officials argued that the flogged woman has performed that flogging herself...
10 posted on 11/25/2006 1:59:30 PM PST by alecqss
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To: spanalot

A guy like him with his experiences has bits and pieces about everybody who is anybody....... from Soros on down.


11 posted on 11/25/2006 2:16:12 PM PST by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: bjs1779
?? The video has synchronous translation into English...

Anyways, according to the translation, Litvinenko blames Ms. Politkovskaya death squarely on Putin. He provides a lot of details (or facts as he says) including direct threats from Putin passed via Russian businessman Hakamada (not sure about spelling). He also gives some insights into the context of the events - including their meetings in London to help her in her investigation of the FSB activities in Russia and abroad.
12 posted on 11/25/2006 2:16:39 PM PST by alecqss
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To: GarySpFc

I not sure how reliable the following is:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/thomas112506.htm

MI6 believe the Polonium 210, which killed former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, could have come from China.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/dastych112506.htm


13 posted on 11/25/2006 2:18:10 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: GarySpFc
Although the sophisticated nature of the poison suggested it could have come from the state....

Not really. Polonium 210 is used in the "Staticmaster" brush, which has been around forever. Amazon will sell you a Polonium replacement element for $13.79.

14 posted on 11/25/2006 3:15:16 PM PST by Grut
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To: GarySpFc
Yes.
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Very mysterious.
15 posted on 11/25/2006 3:22:40 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: GarySpFc
Given the days of uncertainty about what killed him, the matter of who killed him may never be resolved.

So let's not even try?

16 posted on 11/25/2006 3:56:41 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: alecqss
Thanks. I should have waited a little longer to figure that out!
17 posted on 11/25/2006 4:08:57 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: GarySpFc; All
From little green footballs, I saw this link:

Radio station Echo Moskvy reported Friday that Litvinenko converted to Islam. Litvinenko, it said, was read the Yasin surah, or prayer, and given Islamic death rites by an imam invited to the dying spy's hospital bedside.

Ekho, a prominent liberal broadcaster funded by state-owned gas monopoly Gazprom, said Litvinenko would be buried in a Muslim cemetery in London. The station cited Chechenpress, the official news agency of the wartorn republic's insurgency.

A statement dictated by Litvinenko two days before his death and read by friends on Friday said nothing about a conversion to Islam.

A commenter on LGF said that it seems suspicious about this deathbed rites / conversion story, and the source above cites Chechenpress, as if the powers that be in Russia WANT to blame "the Chechen rebels," which the poisoned guy himself said was really a drummed up situation for Putin to obtain the martial laws he has.

18 posted on 11/25/2006 4:11:09 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: B4Ranch

Who cares?


19 posted on 11/25/2006 4:13:58 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal (q)
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To: Grut
The Canadian Free Press is reporting the poison is from China

On Saturday morning, a day after Alexander Litvinienko died of poisoning by a radio-active isotope, Polonium-210, I got a phone call from England. Mr. Gordon Thomas, a famous British investigative journalist and intelligence author, told me he had obtained information from MI5 and MI6 sources that the rare isotope came from China. Was the notorious Chinese intelligence service interested in assassinating former KGB-FSB spy, Alexander Litvinenko? If so, perhaps only for money.
20 posted on 11/25/2006 4:17:16 PM PST by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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