[oneolcop]

Yes, we ARE engaged in asymmetrical war and we are using up the minuscule segment (4%) of the armed forces specifically designed to engage our adversary on the ground. Those of us who advocate for a change in the ROE are not all for "carpet bombing" cities. To imply that is to deny the validity of some of the criticisms of recently retired leaders who were invited to retire by the Secretary of Defense after daring to question his judgment. What kind of leader refuses to listen to the critiques of loyal subordinates? Are you saying "stay the course and just keep doing what we are doing? (No sarcasm intended.)

[MNJohnnie]

So retired Democrat activists, who actively have been campaigning for the Democrat party, who also happen to be retired are supposed to be listened to but the Generals actually running the war on the ground in Iraq, like General Abizaid, are suppose to be ignored?

Go smell what you are shoveling here. This Rummy hater dogma is utterly stupid. Go read what Abizaid told Senator McCain at the US Senate hearings two weeks ago. Want to know what the people running the war think of these Dinocon dogmas McCain and the rest of you are expressing?

They think you people are totally clueless. Go read what he told McCain. While you are doing that consider this fact. We sent 500,000 troops to Vietnam at one point. How did that work out?

Sorry I will take the word of the people actually running the war in Iraq over the politically motivated posturing of never been there retired has beens trying to impose their Conventional Warfare dogmas on an Asymmetrical Warfare problem.