[oceanview]

indeed, that is another angle on this that the "stay the course" freepers must accept:

if we spend the next two years doing exactly the same thing in iraq we have done for the last two years. If we find ourselves in 2008 - debating the same issues, taking 80 KIA every month, listening to Abizaid pontificate, negotiating with Maliki, daily stories of car bombings and militia killings - the Dems are going to win in a blowout in 2008.

[Steve Van Doorn]

You nailed it then what do we have? We lose the war and will not be back into power to deal with the terrorist threat at all. We would be washed up and spit out.

Mr Clinton gave us 911, what will Ms Clinton give us?

[rfp1234]

-- If we find ourselves in 2008 - debating the same issues, taking 80 KIA every month, listening to Abizaid pontificate, negotiating with Maliki, daily stories of car bombings and militia killings - the Dems are going to win in a blowout in 2008.--

Maliki has got to go. He is becoming too dependent on Mookie. Bring back Allawi (he looks a bit like Tony Soprano, acts like him too...).