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To: Jibaholic
You will find little public support, and little empirical evidence, but perhaps you are right.

Ah, yes, the old Ad Populous fallacy, appeal to the masses. The empirical evidence will be in the outcome. What exactly is the timetable you're relying on anyway? 6 months? 1 year? 3 years? I content that we need to give this experiment more time. A previous poster said 10 years, and that my friend is a fairly accurate assessment, in my opinion. BTW, I spent 7 years of my military career in Italy and Germany in the 1990s, 50 years after WWII ended. Just to put the past 3 years in perspective.

Which brings me back to my original point I made on this thread far upstream. We will not start carpet bombing Iraq, or killing massive amounts of people, not with a media and opposition party ready to cry bloody murder over it (as they have been), and a Supreme Court that says we have to give Geneva Convention rights to non uniformed terrorists who have committed war crimes against civilians.

We cannot just leave, because to all of the terrorists, the mullahs of Iran, the zealot muslims who want the Great Satan destroyed, THAT would be seen as an American defeat. They will then be emboldened in their hearts, such as they are, and plan far grander "defeats" to bring to us.

1,865 posted on 11/26/2006 6:39:08 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
Which brings me back to my original point I made on this thread far upstream. We will not start carpet bombing Iraq, or killing massive amounts of people, not with a media and opposition party ready to cry bloody murder over it (as they have been), and a Supreme Court that says we have to give Geneva Convention rights to non uniformed terrorists who have committed war crimes against civilians.

There is but one of two ways to win. Carpet bomb them back to the early 19th century in capabilities or start wholesale killings. Neither is a fact the DEMs nor the GOP of today wants to face. The DEMs have no more FDR's and the GOP has no more Teddy Roosevelt's. These two despite their faults and successes understood war.

That leaves us having our troops left over there being sitting ducks because nobody in office has the fortitude in either party to tell their PC side of the party to go to hell and the well being of the troops come first. It should have done been over. PC is the sole reason it isn't and in a military manner.

The ones who do say as much about Iraq are quickly labeled barbarians by both parties Liberal hierarchy who sadly control both parties. Then the MSM gets their turn.

1,876 posted on 11/26/2006 7:07:53 PM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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