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Neocon? Listen DUmbass I was over there with the 1st Armored Division for a year. What exactly are the "facts" you would like to know?

Ok, you are not a neocon. That means you reject the nation-building side of Iraq. Then lets treat them as a military threat and turn the nation to rubble from 30,000 feet. That is a heck of a lot easier than fighting in the streets.

Ok, you are not a neocon. That means you reject the nation-building side of Iraq. Then lets treat them as a military threat and turn the nation to rubble from 30,000 feet. That is a heck of a lot easier than fighting in the streets.

That comment alone shows how uninformed you are of the situation in Iraq. 3/4ths of the damn country IS rubble. We'd just be wasting bombs and we ARE NOT going to nuke them.

If we don't stick it out and at least TRY to get that country back on its feet we WILL be back there and doing it again in a decade.

"That means you reject the nation-building side of Iraq."

I have no problem with the assistance we are giving the people of Iraq to rebuild their country.

"Then lets treat them as a military threat and turn the nation to rubble from 30,000 feet. That is a heck of a lot easier than fighting in the streets."

The entire country isn't a "military threat".

What good will turning into rubble what we've already spent billions rebuilding accomplish?

You are advocating BJ Bill Clinton's Bosnia Strategy...bombing from 30K feet makes nice pretty holes in the ground.

But unless there are grunts that move in when the bombing is done to occupy those pretty craters...all we've done is crate foxholes for the bad guys to hide in and shoot their shoulder launched AAM's from.

War isn't pretty...it's not something that can...if done effectively...be wrapped up in a bow in 100 hours or conducted from effictively from the safety of the wild blue yonder.

It's a down on the ground...dirty...bloody and yes deadly business.

If you don't have the stones to do something like that yourself...fine...I have no problem with that...but by God you need to get the hell out of the way of those of us that DO pack the proper equipment to go ahead with what needs to be done and not leave until it's finished.