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To: cva66snipe

It wasn't that way in Germany during the war...or right after the war though.

If we keep a presence in Iraq over 50 years...why would that necessarily be different than Germany?

We have no idea what Iraq will be like in another 5 years...which is about how long it took for Germany to "settle down" from what I read.

I guess quitting is easier than finding out.


1,415 posted on 11/25/2006 4:31:19 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Txsleuth

"We have no idea what Iraq will be like in another 5 years...which is about how long it took for Germany to "settle down" from what I read."

Sources for that please.


1,424 posted on 11/25/2006 4:39:10 PM PST by KantianBurke
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To: Txsleuth
We have no idea what Iraq will be like in another 5 years...which is about how long it took for Germany to "settle down" from what I read.

The facts on the ground in postwar Iraq and postwar Germany are as different as night and day. At most, only a handful Americans (that is less than thirty total) died from potshots of so-called German "insurgents." The comparison doesn't hold water but that doesn't prevent people here from making it!

1,431 posted on 11/25/2006 4:42:57 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Txsleuth

"It wasn't that way in Germany during the war...or right after the war though.

If we keep a presence in Iraq over 50 years...why would that necessarily be different than Germany?

We have no idea what Iraq will be like in another 5 years...which is about how long it took for Germany to "settle down" from what I read.

I guess quitting is easier than finding out."

If the situation in Iraq isn't measurably improved by 2008, there will be a Democrat in the White House not a Republican. That will determine Iraq's future just as this month's election was primarily determined by the current situation on the ground in Iraq. The Administration's ability to be successful just became measurably more difficult with the new hostile congressional leadership.


1,437 posted on 11/25/2006 4:48:32 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Txsleuth
We have no idea what Iraq will be like in another 5 years...

Our military can't take another 5 more years Poppy, Clinton, and Junior have about ran it into the ground.

1,439 posted on 11/25/2006 4:50:28 PM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: Txsleuth
If we keep a presence in Iraq over 50 years...why would that necessarily be different than Germany?

Ultimately, the American people decide. We just had one wake-up call election that the voters want change in Iraq. President Bush can defy Congress I guess for a year or so - but then - it's likely - the dems will be given the WH and the Congress and that will be the end of the war in Iraq.

I would rather see us decide how this is resolved and do the right thing than to stubbornly refuse to look at the facts on the ground and continue with a stragegy that is not working..ultimately letting the dems decide what happens because we keep losing elections.

1,458 posted on 11/25/2006 5:06:10 PM PST by Sunsong
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