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To: altura
You're right about the Great Society but carrying off that "noble dream" was a cake walk (and it still failed!) compared to the utopian goal of masterplanning the Bosnia writ large of Iraq.

Establishing a democracy in Iraq would be a good thing

I disagree. Democracy is worth nothing without liberty and justice. We can see that after the resounding "democratic" victory of Hamas and dare I say the democratic victory of Maliki/Sadr's fundamentalist Shi'ite coalition in Iraq. Give me liberty and justice any day over rule by the tyranny of numbers.

1,156 posted on 11/25/2006 2:03:24 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright

Would that the Great Society had failed. It's still haunting us in so many ways.

I don't know if a democracy in the sense that you want is possible in Iraq. I certainly don't understand the Muslim mindset. Bush believes in the basic goodness of most people, but I think that religion is a detriment to that goodness.

But, remember, we thought the Japanese were savages and could never have any form of democracy. Well, they have a form of it...not a form we particularly admire, but they have one.

So, maybe our President is just more farsighted than the rest of us, and maybe he is lucky enough to see the Angel in the Whirlwind while we are all grabbing for the televisions that blew away.


1,167 posted on 11/25/2006 2:09:48 PM PST by altura
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