Posted on 11/24/2006 6:46:08 PM PST by kristinn
I must slightly disagree with my good FRiend here on this cut and run stuff. This war was won and over after the first 2 to 3 months of action. Our troops did a magnificient job, as always. Had we pulled our troops to the borders of Iran and Syria..sealed them and put REAL pressure the border countrys I believe things would be a lot calmer today.
Of course all hell would have broken out in the interior but wouldn't have lasted long. The arms supply would have been broken and our spec ops, snipers and black bag boys could have solved a lot of problems with their specific skills.
However, we did what we always do, try to help the "people" and do the right thing. Then the PC crowd got involved and now we see the results.
Never forget who we are dealing with....shi'ite and sunni mussies! That alone should tell us all something!
The Iraqi army will NEVER take any responsibility or control as long as we are in the interior. The Iraqi guv is beyond worthless and cannot be trusted.
I spent 17 yrs in the middle east, N. & W. Africa so my understanding of the the mindset may be somewhat tainted but it's real.
Let's continue to support our troops and their families. But a different approach is needed now and is long over due.
This is by no means cut and run.
A few hndred years ago one could've made that same argument about Christians. The inquisition wasn't a medieval game show for wayward Picts. Then there was that whole Crusade thing which turned out to be a bit more violent than your average tour of the Holy Land. Just a little food for thought.
Cindie
I will never forgive Reagan for not avenging our Marines. We might not be in the shape that we are today, if he had gone after the bad guys!
The people of Iraq came out to vote, came out to vote in huge numbers and against the ever present danger of being killed for doing so. And what do a whole LOT of your average American do? He/she stays home on election day.
You STILL haven't answered my question about native born Americans, whose families have been here for centuries, who are Muslims. HOW DO YOU KICK THEM OUT OF AMERICA?
Close our borders?
There are FOUR borders and all of them are breached every single day by planes and 2 1/2 of them by boat. Remember, you said that you still want commerce with the rest of the world, so just HOW is the USA to become FORTRESS AMERICA?
As to Christianity, for many centuries, oh hey, more than a millenia, forced conversion, murder, and war ruled the day. And even when that was no longer in fashion,internecine warfare was. When that too sort of died out, then there were other, not so visible nastiness against non-Christians.
Yes, that was a breif answer. It's late and to try to bring you up to speed, on this, obviously won't do a whole lot of good, since you imagine that you know everything and that everyone who doesn't agree with you is some kind of cretin. It must be wonderful to be as blissfully ignorant and arrogant as you. ;^)
MacArthur was a good general, but as far as Japan goes, he also really DID have an ace in the hole, which it is patently obvious you know nothing at all about. The Japanese had, for decades, been, as they are today, enamored of many things American; especially baseball. They were already quite familiar with quite a lot of American culture and loved it. That also helped quite a lot.
Oh and BTW, the canard about Mac in the Philippines, wrapping Muslims in pig skins isn't true.
Fight them there, or fight them here!!
Exactly, I just don't understand why people don't get the big picture!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1743681/posts?page=37#31
Pretty good perspective...
Sir, you just been declared certifiable!
Freelance for antiwar.com?
No! I am not a ditto head!
We are an active duty military family, and maybe we have a clearer view of the war than you do.
No need for a long winded tirade. The simple fact is that "fight the terrorist over there, or fight them over here."
All of your fierce bloviation is not only not worthy of a reply, but for a self proclaimed 49 year old, you post with the acumen and ego of a 13 year old. All bluster and brash swagger, but no actual solutions.
How effective WAS Michael Collins, really? If he truly was as effective as you claim, then why is Ireland still part of Great Britain? Why is the IRA still blowing up buildings and people? Why are there still Protestants living in Ireland?
The ONLY reason that Nam was "lost", is because the American Commies got the upper hand. Our troops were actually WINNING. It was the MSM and a cadre of card carrying American Commies who turned a win into a defeat. Of course LJB and that flaming idiot McNamara and all of the "best and the brightest" ( yet another MSM myth and complete misnomer, if ever there was one! ) leftovers from JFK, were to blame as well.
Of course, your age doesn't help you, when it comes to this time period; though others, who are even younger than you are, can understand far better than you, because they know the subject. You don't!
You started out by saying that ALL Muslims, living in America MUST be expunged from our soil. You have now backpedaled and said those who traffic with known terrorist. Now, just WHY is that? Could it be because you are unable to answer by question about native born Americans, whose families have lived here for centuries, converting to Islam? And there is NO extant law, that can be used against such people, to deport them. Nor will there be one, because it would be be unconstitutional!
Oh goody.....besides being a blood thirsty armchair general, you're also a damned misogynist. I should have known. LOL
Try to leave emotion out of YOUR posts; not to mention blinkered bloviating and chest pounding. None of that is impressive nor does it win debates.
Because there are none so blind as those who will not see.
You have been nothing but a can't-do American on this thread.
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