Posted on 11/24/2006 6:46:08 PM PST by kristinn
I dont believe that answers the question. Bombing in my opinion will only take out strategic locations. It will have a side effect of bolstering radical Islam from 10% to say 15%. An air campaign is like doing something half ass. My opinion if your going to do it do it right.
Islam is about territory. If you take territory you are winning, if you dont you are losing. An Air campaign does not take territory.
If the DSM were to cover America the same way they cover Iraq, more than half the country would be clamoring to go back to the tender mercies of the Crown, including many FReepers.
Thank you for your much needed post. I see the "runners" and other mobs of deluded people have assembled.
I especially like that part about Western people and dictatrorships slaughtering each other. Touche! I guess we really don't deserve freedom because of the liberal infestation in our country. ;)
Then again, others might argue that point seriously. :(
Wow. I guess it wasn't just last night......
I do hope you realize how many leftist academic elitist statements you've made on this thread.
You do, don't you? Are you a student at a New England university?
If the cut and run strategy of the democrat socialists is successful in withdrawing our courageous military personnel and allowing the genocidal shiia islamicists (like the Iranian stooge, Sadr) their way, the result will be perhaps the most immoral act this nation has ever committed. The longterm effects will get millions of Americans killed, eventually right in our own assaulted cities by the suicidal demon spawn that Islam is generating as a reaction to self rule by Arab peoples.
B U M P !!
I have trusted this President, too. I just fear that he might not have the resolve to do what is called for here as a result of the fiasco of Nov. 7, 2006. Before that date, it hardly seemed possible that the Democrats would be able to give this man any MORE resistence and trouble. Now it appears inevitable! :-(
Your thoughts on this, please; i.e. why do do think he will not leave office before taking care of the big one?
Nancee
You gotta have some sense of urgency. Iran is developing nukes and meanwhile, killing our troops in Iraq, fomenting civil war in Lebanon and tinkering with wiping out Israel. How long do you want to wait in order to do a perfect job? If we wait and get blown up history will call our leaders full asses, that's for sure.
Islam is about territory. If you take territory you are winning, if you dont you are losing.
This is the first time I hear that this is what Islam is about. What do you say to the Islam that's taking over Western Europe? Where is the territory involved?
After Iraq, we will never "invade" Iran. Even if we do, what do you suggest we do with the territory? How long do we occupy the territory? What do we do with the inhabitants? And last but not least, why can't we apply your principle to what we have now, Iraq?
The only thing left is that we have to stop being full asses and do what you call a half ass job. It's the only way given the shortage of time.
Bush doesn't know who will become president. Even if he knew, he couldn't possibly trust A RAT or a RINO.
This president feels deeply about this country and the danger we're facing in the short and long range in spite all the hits he endured and still enduring.
Time is too short to leave it to politicians playing games. He will take care of it sooner than later.
Call it just a feeling.
Great wisdom here!
I am looking forward to some specifics when you are able to respond further.
This thread is huge.
Nancee
And we shall keep hitting them again and again and again. Iran and Syria arrogance must be broken, they must be humiliated. The intensive Air Campaign will teach them that we can destroy them anytime we want and destroy them hard, and that they are not going to control the Middle East.
Thanks, JV.
I must have repeated this argument 100 times in the past few days! LOL
With your permission, kristinn........this is one of the many photos, kristinn took while he was in Iraq very recently.
These are the faces of those you condemn to servitude and brutality simply because they have been born in a Muslim country. These are a few of the people that you, in the name of being a good Christian, believe don't deserve freedom.....
And these are a very few of the millions of people that our military has liberated 'with the sword' to live lives in freedom, and Lord willing, some day, peace.
God bless our troops for what they have done......'for the least of these.'
Doesn't matter if they are isolationist or pacifist...neither group is living in reality.
I wish things were different. I wish Islam were not a violant religion. But it is. Until the Middle East changes their religion, it will remain a violant and oppressive region. And there is nothing that our soldiers can do to change that. All we can do is pray for their hearts to change.
I reread the thread. In the heat of 'battle' you got quite insulting. Here are some examples (there are more):
#1836 I could say, "Boy, you are truly a Masshole. Massachusetts finest, just like Barney, Ted and John F'n." But I won't, as that would be insulting.#1817 Arrogant and ignorant, mixed with really bad theology. Good day.
#1798 You are clueless.
#1785 Wow. You're a piece of work. Arrogant and ignorant all rolled into one.
#1775 He's THERE, you idiot!! Do you realize how stupid you look?? ... C'mon! NO one is this braindead!
#1760 Jib is a perfect example of ignorant arrogance arguing with informed intelligence.
That does not count how you repeatedly called me a racist because I said that "Muslims are not capable of democracy." You decided that what I really meant was "Arabs are not capable of democracy."
And you can't stick your head in a hole and pretend they don't exist, as the isolationists here do, nor can you reach out your hands to them and sing Kumbaya as the pacifists (some here as well) do.
Real life requires real answers. Sometimes they're not easy, but neither running away nor chanting about 'peace' has never solved a single problem in the real world.
Thank you, sir and thank you for you service.
Of course, a job is completed with boots on the ground but the clock is ticking and something has to be done, SOON.
The psychological effect on the whole terrorist world* is devastating. In addition, it conveys a very strong message to Russia, China, NK, and whoever is thinking of grand terrorist or aggressive schemes: who is the boss? It is the only superpower that will make you pay dearly for targeting its people, civilians and military.
I close by citing what you said and my full agreement on it. I add to that: It's about damn time!!
Any air campaign would have to be full shock and awe, no pussyfooting.
*Never used this combination before but unfortunately, it applies.
I do not apologize for my position that you were insulting (to txradioguy who is IN Iraq), nor that that you are arrogant, elitist and dead wrong about the Iraqi people, and that your condemnation of everyone born in a Muslim country to a life of servitude and oppression is as UNChristian as any I have seen.
And your theology IS bad.
I believe that your liberal environs have inculcated you with a philosophy of which you are not even aware. Your liberal politics have influenced your understanding of the world and Scripture, as well.
I am sorry for going over the line by calling you an 'idiot.' (btw, those are not all my quotes. Did you do that deliberately to mislead?)
You have proven that you are ignorant about what's going on in Iraq, and there has been nothing but arrogance in your posts, and for those observations, I make no apology.
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