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Hatch is confident of stem cell bill passage
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | November, 24, 2006 | Robert Gehrke

Posted on 11/24/2006 8:14:39 AM PST by yoe

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Adult stem cell research is very successful yet embryonic stem cell research to date has proven unsuccessful. Why the determination to use embryonic stem cells over adult remains a mystery as it is unnecessary except for the one area that it can obtain and that is cloning.

Embryonic stem cell research is fraught with problems, both moral and unproven health cures however, cloning is its one success. If so many who claim ESCR is so wonderful and yet on the other hand they are against abortion....I can't find the reasoning here. (Hatch bill S.681). This bill does not include ESCR nor does it, as far as I can tell, mention the on going use of Adult Stem Cells now nor the successes therein. Is it the federal money they are after?

1 posted on 11/24/2006 8:14:41 AM PST by yoe
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I guess the Republican voters that did NOT vote, in order to send a message to Washington....might be realizing about now that it didn't do any GOOD, but did bring a lot of BAD.


2 posted on 11/24/2006 8:17:13 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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bttt


3 posted on 11/24/2006 8:17:46 AM PST by Guenevere
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While I was going to say that Hatch is a useful idiot for the Left I've decided to reconsider.

Go ahead and try to do your corporate give away to biotech companies for the purpose of destroying human life, it's a good way to get a lot of prolife blue dog democrats defeated in '08.


4 posted on 11/24/2006 8:17:59 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Have you thanked the rich person who subsidized your share of taxation today?)
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Don't count your Hatches before he chickens.


5 posted on 11/24/2006 8:20:29 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Have you thanked the rich person who subsidized your share of taxation today?)
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As a pro lifer, I am so torn on this issue. Yes I HATE the fact that babies are being aborted. However, what do we do with the aborted babies? Does everyone think that abortion rates would rise if we start embryonic stem cell research? Could we find positive out of a bad situation. Obviously, all they have to do is outlaw abortion and this issue is not longer an issue. What are they waiting for? As far as adult stem cells having more success. It could be that adult stem cells have been used longer and with more cells possibly. I don't know what the right answer is, but I sure would like to find some cures of some of these horrible illnesses that are savaging our population and families.


6 posted on 11/24/2006 8:28:22 AM PST by napscoordinator
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I think its an easy "choice."

Even if fetal stem cells were as good as they claimed (and so far they appear to be a bit of a boondogle -- to put federal money in the hands of ethically challenged biologists) we could not use them.

We can not still be a moral people and use babies (no matter how small) to prolong our own adult lives. There's a word for people who feed on others: vampires.


7 posted on 11/24/2006 8:40:08 AM PST by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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It is the height of naivete and stupidity for Pro Life Voters to not exercise their right to vote!

George Bush has done more for the Pro Life Movement than all of the Catholic Pro Abortion Senators!

The Dumbest thing a Pro Life voter could have done is vote for Casey Jr. and against Rick Santorum.

By doing so, the sit on your hand and not vote and poute like little children Pro life Voters have done more to advance the killing of unborn children, killing of embryos for the purpose stem cell research and the pushing forward of the concept of eutanasia to eliminate the suffering and hurting of the worlds.


8 posted on 11/24/2006 8:46:04 AM PST by ethics
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"I think the election really sent a message to Washington that the voters want embryonic stem cell research passed," she said.

It is possible this woman actually believes it too. These people are downright scary.

9 posted on 11/24/2006 9:09:01 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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stem cells don't come from aborted babies. They come from embryos destroyed solely to harvest their stem cells.

Considering the astounding lack of success that researchers have had with embryonic stem cells, there is absolutely no positive to come from this. There is no justification for killing a child to harvest is's cells. What's next, killing adults to harvest their needed organs?


10 posted on 11/24/2006 9:13:38 AM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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Yet another HOLE into which the Federal government can throw OUR money into..........in perpetuity.


11 posted on 11/24/2006 9:16:48 AM PST by PISANO
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"This should not be polarized," Hatch said, adding that he had made headway swaying some who had opposed the bill and at least one stem cell opponent told him privately before he lost that he would change his stance. "They're worried they may be on the wrong side of history."

Orin Hatch, tax collector for the human being killers. A nice legacy.

12 posted on 11/24/2006 9:19:57 AM PST by jwalsh07
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Hatch is such a weasel, and he obviously hasn't learned ANYTHING from the Nov. 7 upset. It's as though he wants to ensure permanent minority status for Republicans.


13 posted on 11/24/2006 9:23:09 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Mashed potatoes, gravy, and cranberry sauce! Wooooooo-oooooooo!)
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bump for publicity


14 posted on 11/24/2006 9:27:50 AM PST by VOA
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Is it the federal money they are after?

"Cha-Ching!"

My brother knows a stem-cell researcher at the U. Missouri-Columbia.

The guy was breaking open the champagne when Amendment 2 passed.
He said it's greased the skids for a load of federal and state money
for ESC research.
Yes, it will have to be voted on.

But like open-borders and open-ended Amenesty for illegals,
it's a done deal thanks to the recent elections.
15 posted on 11/24/2006 9:30:45 AM PST by VOA
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And, unfortunately, Senator Hatch isn't alone when talking about Republican Congress-persons who haven't learned anything from the Nov. 7 upset. When the political choices are between either STUPID Republicans or STUPID Democrats, STUPID politicians will end up winning each and every time its tried!


16 posted on 11/24/2006 10:29:21 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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naps...

This is about FEDERAL MONEY being spent...not about the research itself.

I don't think the fed government should ever be involved in something that could lead to cloning...and to women intentionally getting pregnant in order to "sell" their fetuses.


17 posted on 11/24/2006 10:34:55 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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I voted in the last election, and will continue to vote for conservatives.

Santorum lost, but not because I personally didn't try.

To those who stood on the sidelines watching, I hope you're happy.


18 posted on 11/24/2006 10:39:25 AM PST by airborne (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Jesus is the reason for the season!!)
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"Congress passed the legislation last year, but Bush killed the bill, exercising his only veto in six years. But the election results have changed the landscape, and Sen. Orrin Hatch believes supporters can round up enough votes to override a presidential veto, if it comes to that.

"I think we have the votes in the Senate to override a veto, and we may have them in the House. I think we can get there," the Utah Republican said. "According to some, we're only a couple votes short, and I think I know where those votes are."

Oh really, jughead? You think so?

Americans Continue To Oppose Funding Stem Cell Research That Destroys Human Embryos

WASHINGTON (May 31, 2006)— 48% of Americans oppose federal funding of stem cell research that requires destroying human embryos, while only 39% support such funding. The poll, conducted by International Communications Research (ICR), surveyed over one thousand adults by telephone May 19-23.


19 posted on 11/24/2006 10:48:20 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Hey Patches, even your seat isn't safe.)
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"This should not be polarized," Hatch said, adding that he had made headway swaying some who had opposed the bill and at least one stem cell opponent told him privately before he lost that he would change his stance. "They're worried they may be on the wrong side of history."

That's a fascinatingly moronic statement, Patches, given you're "on the wrong side of history" RIGHT NOW.


20 posted on 11/24/2006 10:53:42 AM PST by StAnDeliver (For every two votes you've got, Patches, I've got three against ESCR.)
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