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This is the first time in human history that we've had an invading army keen on picking our crops and doing construction work for us.

I happen to like the illegals, because they work bloody hard for laughable wages. Hard work's gone out of style in this country, unless you're here illegally.

"INVADERS!"? It is this kind of attitude that makes even citizen hispanics afraid of the Republican party.

I think it would be a good idea to normalize their status and throw out the ones who are criminals, but acting as though they are some kind of sub-human species is appalling to me.

After digesting everything I've read about illegals, I think the negative effects of them have been enormously exaggerated and distorted. They do help wide swathes of our economy continue to run.

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An invader is somebody who illegally enters a country.

An immigrant is somebody who comes here legally.

Illegals don't vote - or aren't supposed to.

A recent poll indicated that among Hispanic American CITIZENS, the issue of illegal invaders was VERY down on their list of priorities. Essentially they want the same things all other Americans want. And Bush's open border policies resulted in even FEWER Hispanic votes this time around.

"I happen to like the illegals, because they work bloody hard for laughable wages. Hard work's gone out of style in this country, unless you're here illegally."

Then you approve of law-breakers. If you want more immigrant workers, get Congress to ease the route for legal immigrants. But no country can survive without controlling its borders. In the era of terrorism, this is even MORE important.

"This is the first time in human history that we've had an invading army keen on picking our crops and doing construction work for us.":

Well, actually, there was a time in history when invaders were eager to come in and fight for a country - they were called Goths and the rest is history.

"I think it would be a good idea to normalize their status and throw out the ones who are criminals, but acting as though they are some kind of sub-human species is appalling to me."

No body is calling them a sub-human species. We are calling them what they are - lawbreakers and invaders. I don't want to "normalize" there presence - it will encourage others. I want them OUT. I repeat, if you need more workers than you can get, get Congress to raise the quota for legal immigrants - people who want to come here and be American citizens, not just act as an invading column of cultural fifth columnists who are only interested in funneling bucks back to some third world rat hole to keep a bucnh of corrupt third world politicians in power.

"After digesting everything I've read about illegals, I think the negative effects of them have been enormously exaggerated and distorted. They do help wide swathes of our economy continue to run."

The U.S. had a flood of legal immigrants from southern and eastern Europe in the early part of the 20th century. Those people, for the most part, wanted to BE AMERICANS. They and their children learned our customs and language and NOBODY had "bilingual programs" in Italian, Greek, Polish, Czech or Russian. They were expected to learn OUR language and did.

Even today, there are LOTS of Chinese and Japanese immigrants who speak a language much more distant from English than Spanish and have no problem learning our language.

I think you view of the presence of these invaders is incorrect for several reasons:

1) For the most part, their employers don't provide medical coverage or social security coverage. If they get sick, our hospitals have to take care of them and the cost is absorbed by the hospital and by insured patients and their employers.

2) The majority of babies born in many hospitals are born to illegals who then become de facto citizens without going through the processes legal immigrants do.

3) A substantial number of criminals in our jails are illegals

4) Illegals hang out in public places in large numbers creating a problem for motorists and pedestrians trying to get through, while the illegals are waiting for contractors, and landscapers, etc to pick them up.

5) The very large number of these people, all coming from the same areas, essentially, leads to immense ghettos where English isn't spoken and the area essentially becomes an outgrowth of another nation. This is counterproductive to assimilation.

Unless this invasion is brought to a halt, unless we stop pandering to these people in our schools by requiring American students to learn Spanish, we will loose our sense of national identity, cease to be an Anglo-American nation composed of many disparate ethnic groups bound by a common language and culture, and become instead, another Latin American country - the goal of MANY of these illegals, and those who support them here and in their homelands.

And I think that is NOT a good thing.