Posted on 11/23/2006 1:06:06 PM PST by Coleus
My prayer for your maternal grandmother. Have you ever thought that her pain might have been for the greater good?
It is untold thousands who have called on the Lord for comfort during these moments. We never know how many have attained heaven during these trying times due to their pleading.
God Bless.
What you speak of is voluntary organ donor euthanasia, in which the idea originates with the donor. Wait and see: State-sponsored organ donor euthanasia, which I speak of, is not your ideal. Think about China. It's coming.
What you fail to acknowledge is basic human nature. People are never happy with the status quo. They must forever push the envelope. The physician assisted suicide culture that exists in Oregon is only the beginning. It's the first step, usually the hardest one. The next ones will be easier, and they will come. The road will be greased by idealists who believe it is a good thing to have "the option."
I doubt that doctors who routinely terminate lives of their patients are working hard on cures.
I would be greatly reassured, if you present data showing me that I am wrong.
You started with it... So I am waiting for your data...
Making a common sense statement is not "starting it."
I'd be reassured if you can show me I am wrong.
With the pancreas,with cancer or after pancreatitis, some people have terrible somatic pain, not from usual pain fibers but the "sympathetic nervous system". This type can respond to a block of the sympathetic plexus (I had one woman addicted due to the pain after her pancreatitis...she got off narcotics after we blocked it).
The patient I mentioned on 300 mg morphine IV had a morphine drip into his spinal cord to control the pain, and lived like that for three months. When he was terminal, we removed it and it took the huge dose that I mentioned to relieve his pain. They also can cut the spinal cord: An old treatment that if done wrong can paralyze you. I haven't seen this done in 30 years. They also can do local nerve blocks and numb it if it is a limb etc.
Sometimes anti seizure medicine can help nerve pain, or anti depressant medicine.
The main problem is metastases, i.e. so many areas hurt that you can't block them all.
Wesley Smith's book is a good guide to pain. Power over pain
A very intelligent man. He's right. Now, if this point could be made in the political debate. Ideological liberals don't care about these concerns, since they see man as simply an animal and care only about our physical well-being. True conservatives need to take up the argument. No one else will, because no one else cares about our civilization.
Thanks for your detailed reply. I'll check into Smith's book, too.
BTTT and thanks for posting, Coleus.
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