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Airbus may end up grounded if superjumbo fails to take off
New Zealand Herald | November 23, 2006 | Michael Harrison

Posted on 11/23/2006 10:52:48 AM PST by Zakeet

This article comes from the New Zealand Herald, part of the Independent (UK) chain. They will not let us post their material on FR.

However, this article is well written and contains a good summary of some of the issues facing Airbus.

The author concludes that the A380's $14 billion development cost, combined with at least $7 billion in lost profits from the A380's delays, combined with the estimated $12 billion that will be required to come up with the 350XWB answer to the 787 Dreamliner, may be too much for Airbus to overcome.

Aviation buffs should find this article worth a read.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airbus; problems; trade
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1 posted on 11/23/2006 10:52:50 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Schadenfreude alert!


2 posted on 11/23/2006 10:55:22 AM PST by Thebaddog (Labrador Retrievers are the dog's dog)
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To: Zakeet

There must be a lot more than "wiring" to delay construction.

The freighter version would not have the wiring to seats that they explain, as the problem.

I think it is more the 5 tons overweight that is the problem.

It reduces either the payload or fuel enough that it won't work in the proposed applications.


3 posted on 11/23/2006 11:04:54 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Zakeet; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; ...

The delays of the A380 threaten the
future of Airbus. Picture / Reuters

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.


4 posted on 11/23/2006 11:07:01 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Zakeet

Airbus won't go down. Unlike Boeing, their losses are covered by the taxpayers.


5 posted on 11/23/2006 11:08:44 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Just one day without polls would be nice.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

LOL, when I first saw your photo, with the fisheye character of the nose of the plane, it looked to me like something had laid a giant egg.


6 posted on 11/23/2006 11:09:31 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: COEXERJ145
Airbus won't go down. Unlike Boeing, their losses are covered by the taxpayers.

So all of OldEurope sinks with Airbust. It's not like they've been particularily useful in stopping the Islamokazis.

7 posted on 11/23/2006 11:10:33 AM PST by steveegg (UNNNNGGGHHHH! Seeking new state, will travel)
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To: COEXERJ145
Unlike Boeing, their losses are covered by the taxpayers Eurosuckers.

Corrected!
8 posted on 11/23/2006 11:10:38 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: Dan(9698)
I think it is more the 5 tons overweight that is the problem.

I thought that I read in a different article posted on FR in the past week that Airbus had solved the weight problem.
9 posted on 11/23/2006 11:11:20 AM PST by Zetman (I believe the children are the next generation.)
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To: Zakeet
They sunk a lot of money in the plane and if they can't get enough orders for the AB 380, the fallout may be the least of Airbus's problems.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

10 posted on 11/23/2006 11:14:53 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zakeet
Here's what Jaques Chirac said about it the A380 when it was laungched. I am quoting the quote from the article. That should be covered under fair use.
This veritable ocean liner of the sky will go down in history like the Concorde.
Jaques Chirac

11 posted on 11/23/2006 11:24:39 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Zetman

"I thought that I read in a different article posted on FR in the past week that Airbus had solved the weight problem."

The frogs wil probably solve that problem by posting a no passanger over 100# admited.


12 posted on 11/23/2006 11:25:27 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Zetman
...Airbus had solved the weight problem

What did they do?

Must have left off the vertical tail and solved the problem of it falling off in flight.

13 posted on 11/23/2006 11:30:59 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Zetman
" I thought that I read in a different article posted on FR in the past week that Airbus had solved the weight problem."

I'd be interested if you can find this article and ping me to it as I am in the industry and I had not heard this yet. I'm in the camp of believers that this is the real problem, not some "wiring problems". It is not easy (or cheap) to wring five tons out of a design this late in the game.

14 posted on 11/23/2006 11:33:56 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
This veritable ocean liner of the sky will go down in history like the Concorde.

Perhaps he should have used a phrase other than "go down" !!
15 posted on 11/23/2006 11:36:07 AM PST by Zetman (I believe the children are the next generation.)
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To: SW6906

to chirac, concorde's history is something to be proud of.


17 posted on 11/23/2006 11:44:38 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: SW6906
Could this be the article you seek?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1741805/posts

Read it carefully, because they claim to have a solution but never specify what or how. Later on in the article the tense changes from present to future, as in "will have solved". I think they're assuming and hoping more than solving...

18 posted on 11/23/2006 11:48:07 AM PST by ZOOKER ( In loving memory of the brave bird who gave his life for me today...)
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To: Zakeet

The full article is already posted on FR

The A380 superjumbo: The white elephant ^
Posted by Paul Ross
On General/Chat ^ 11/22/2006 3:21:05 PM PST · 11 replies · 327+ views

The Independent ^ | November 22, 2006 | Michael Harrison

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1742872/posts


20 posted on 11/23/2006 12:06:17 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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