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Police: Shooting Of Elderly Woman "Tragic, Unfortunate"
wsbtv ^ | 11-21-2006 | wsbtv

Posted on 11/22/2006 8:16:37 PM PST by AdamSelene235

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To: AdamSelene235

In a no-knock raid on a private residence the police let a 92 year old woman get the drop on them and three officers are shot. Then they proceed to shoot her dead. If I were their superior I would roast these "officers" over a slow fire. There is just no excuse for this kind of incompetence. None.


101 posted on 11/22/2006 11:16:19 PM PST by claudiustg ("We are entering an era where when the speaker instructs you what to do, you do it.")
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

You are one shameless disgusting individual making a statement like that. Beyond pathetic.


102 posted on 11/22/2006 11:21:44 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: sageb1
So she thought they were what?

Criminals intent on harm.

Boy shoots home invader

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas, A teenager in Corpus Christi, Texas, saved his mother and himself by killing a knife-wielding intruder in their home, police said. Rose Ann Kozlowski had just returned from buying groceries when the man appeared early Monday afternoon. Her son, 14, had come home from school because of illness

EM home invader sought

A man who kicked in the door of an elderly East Moline woman's home and held her at gunpoint as he ransacked her apartment remained at large Thursday.

Suspect sought in Chanhassen home invasion and kidnapping

The search continues for a suspect who held a Chanhassen family hostage in their own home. Thursday night, authorities say the man forced his way into a home in the 10,000 block of Trails End Road, where he held a man, woman and three young children hostage until Friday morning.

Authorities seek Blount home invader

Blount County authorities today are looking for a man in his late teens or early 20s who is accused of invading the home of an elderly woman, knocking her to the floor and attempting to rob her.

There are thousands of more such stories. Pleny enough to make an elderly woamn in a crime-ridden neighborhood assume anyone crashing through her door in civilan clothes were criminals intent on harm.
103 posted on 11/22/2006 11:26:24 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: AdamSelene235

Too bad she wasn't a better shot.


105 posted on 11/22/2006 11:33:12 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: DBrow

I'm not old and I don't understand kicking through grannie's door. Good shooting, Grannie.

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns. NRA KMA


106 posted on 11/23/2006 1:26:02 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: CindyDawg

I am pretty sure that substances claimed to have been found will turn out to be "drugs." The department must ensure that now to justify the raid. They have plenty of resources to ensure that any sort of substance that is deemed appropriate will have been found.


107 posted on 11/23/2006 2:46:19 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: DBrow

If her hearing was bad, and that seems likely given her age, she heard a big commotion and picked up her gun off the dresser. When her door crashed in she knew someone was coming to kill her and she started shooting. Unfortunately it was probably a small caliber piece and she just shot in the invaders' direction. But if she had known to aim at the head, then it would be that she knew to expect cops in vests.


108 posted on 11/23/2006 2:51:31 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: CindyDawg
Why not just arrest the guy when he sold them drugs?

No excitement. No glory.

109 posted on 11/23/2006 2:52:54 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
If you honestly believe that, you are so clueless that you should probably, not be allowed to vote.

Hope the same thing happens to one of your parents someday....I'm sure you'd feel exactly the same and have the same omniscient, divine knowledge and would tell the news crew:

"Hell yeah, Mom knew who she was shooting at. She deserved it..... No, she's never done or sold drugs...but she deserved it anyway. Mom always wanted to shoot a few cops and get away with it. Damn shame she didn't actually get to kill one...that would have made her happy."

Another small-minded, racist pig speaks on FR.....

110 posted on 11/23/2006 2:58:30 AM PST by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: sageb1

You know what a Libertarian is, don't you? It's a Republican who smokes pot.

(Sorry, old joke;)


111 posted on 11/23/2006 3:40:55 AM PST by ktvaughn (I avoid cliches like the plague...)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
She had the wherewith all to hit three policemen with five rounds. This is on top of the reported fact that her niece recently bought her the gun. She seems alert and competent to me. She knew who she was shooting at. She figured she would survive because who would shoot an old lady. She would play the race card too. The problem with getting old is believing this crap. She got what she deserved.

My, what bravado you have for the thugs with guns and badges. The only problem I see here, she didn't use a 12 guage! Come into my house unannounced, that's what you'll see coming at ya! Blackbird.

112 posted on 11/23/2006 5:51:59 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Stay out of the Bushes, unless you're RINO hunting!)
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To: CindyDawg
How about automatic time for anyone that uses. You test positive and its 3 months in jail the first time. No exceptions. Keep extending it until the druggies off the street and the recreational users shape up. You wouldn't have any dope dealers then. There would be little interest in their product. Just my dopey Libertarian Opinion:')

Actually, that's not a Libertarian position at all. I'd go along with the concept though, if the "anyone that uses" clause includes all government employees, including all politicians at all levels and all LEO at all levels and all CEO's and Board members. In short, everyone must participate. Line all these people up to pee in a bottle everyday, and I'll get in line with them. Let's see just how entrenched the drugs are in our society. From my own experience, many would be surprised at WHO does drugs! Blackbird.

113 posted on 11/23/2006 6:00:11 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Stay out of the Bushes, unless you're RINO hunting!)
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To: metmom
Ya know, drugs are bad, and so are dealers, but this *No Knock* policy is costing too much in the way of innocent lives. It's not worth the cost of trying to get a dealer. I have my own opinions about what they should do with drug dealers but I'd probably get flamed for them. Suffice to say, if they bought drugs from someone there, they should have arrested him on the spot and confiscated what they found then. Then they can seal the place up and get a warrant to finish the search ASAP.

For the most part I agree with you. I wouldn't mind marijuana being legalized because it's not anywhere near as 'harmful' as the government makes it out to be. The rest of the stuff should remain illegal though.

I despise the No Knock policy because it seems to me as if it gives the police unlimited powers to break into your home. Just the property damage and the mess they leave behind is bad enough because then you're left to clean it up yourself. Oh sure, they may compensate you for any property damage later but that's after they've determined there are no drugs and the compensation request has gone through all of the proper channels.

Too many times we read about the police getting the address wrong or no drugs are found, etc. Innocent people get killed, injured, have their pets shot and/or have to deal with property damage and a damned oops, sorry.

Why can't they arrest the person they see dealing or buy drugs from and then get a warrant to search the house? Is there such a thing as a probable cause warrant? I really don't know if there's such an animal but it would seem that if they find someone selling drugs at a particular house they already have probable cause to search the house. If the person is dealing out of the front yard then what's wrong with knocking on the door and if entry can't be gained because they won't answer the door, then get a warrant to break in.

What the heck is wrong with staking out a suspected place to see who actually is living there and what kind of activity is taking place. If they'd done their homework they'd have known an elderly woman lived there and just maybe they could have gotten her out of the harm's way before they broke in.

In this stupid War on Drugs people are being presumed guilty without benefit of a trial.

And before anyone accuses me of being a druggy who wants nothing more than to smoke pot, I'm 54 years old and haven't smoked any pot since I was 22. Even back then I rarely smoked it because the only real enjoyment I got out of it was Baskin Robbins Pralines'N'Cream Ice Cream tasted like heaven.

Oh, and I've never been subjected to any kind of a warrant or search either. I just get ticked off when stuff like this happens.

114 posted on 11/23/2006 6:00:32 AM PST by Sally'sConcerns
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To: postwill
She shot 3 police officers-do you get to do that after a certain age?

No, there is no age restriction on shooting home invaders. Welcome to FR! Blackbird.

115 posted on 11/23/2006 6:05:37 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Stay out of the Bushes, unless you're RINO hunting!)
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To: KantianBurke
She was 92 -- I'd be surprised if they didn't find perfectly legal, prescribed drugs in the house. As for the emblazoned vests -- once again, your eyesight at 92 isn't the best.

The cops majorly screwed up. Sadly, they will probably squirm out of it, and it's going to disgust me to see the machinations they'll go through to legitimize their tragic mistake.

116 posted on 11/23/2006 6:07:36 AM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

I'm all for mandatory government testing, esp in Congress :')


117 posted on 11/23/2006 6:14:05 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Clock King
You're so full of elephant dung, I can smell it across the 'Net. I don't believe for a second that these THUGS with badges announced ANYTHING! I firmly believe that is a lie. Who knows? Is there a tape of the warrant being served? No. We in the Black community know the THUGS all too well, and know how they lie and plant evidence all the time. How much blow and guns accidentally go "missing" from lockup every year?

I share your outrage. Anyone who thinks this woman got her just desserts, is beyond pathetic. Blackbird.

118 posted on 11/23/2006 6:14:53 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Stay out of the Bushes, unless you're RINO hunting!)
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To: metmom

You're right. No Knock Warrants carry too heavy a cost with little gain.

Personally, I believe the Law Enforcement types love the Rambo style....ever since Waco I've opened my eyes.


119 posted on 11/23/2006 6:18:27 AM PST by Loud Mime (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire)
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To: AdamSelene235

Unfortunate indeed.
I'm for the 92 year old woman who was murdered with the full force and approval of the government, carried out by its armed branch, the police.

A person has a right and an obligation to preserve his/her life and that of family. Someone broke into her house. She used her right to self-protection, and was murdered.

The police and the government are saying this is too xxxxxxxing bad, but it was justified, legal, we did what we had to do, bla bla bla.
Wrong. This is legalized murder. The police involved need to be prosecuted for murder.


120 posted on 11/23/2006 6:20:45 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Fascism is wrong even if it's declared legal.)
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