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To: SoCalPol

my former church was once this wonderful good evangelical Bible church out of Dallas, Texas. It became a mega church and within a year of being in the new large building the pastor announced things were going to change, and they sure have! Now my former church has become a Liberal/Emergent/progressive church just like Rick Warren's church. And the pastor just loves Rick Warren!

There is only one mega church here that has a solid reputation and hasn't changed, but I live to far away to attend. We are looking for another church now. It is sickening because there are so many who are being decieved at my former church and it won't take much for them to continue to follow the lead of the church rather than Christ.


44 posted on 11/22/2006 7:57:21 PM PST by Halls (God, please grant me the serenity to accept what I can not change....)
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To: Halls

The Rick Warren and fundy type are cheap & rip offs.
I don't see how anyone can feel they are in a church with
their rinky dink music, and side show antics.

I will take Liturgy and Bach anytime.


63 posted on 11/22/2006 8:21:40 PM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: Halls

"There is only one mega church here that has a solid reputation."

Is that pastor Haggee's church?


128 posted on 11/23/2006 6:22:12 AM PST by liberty or death
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To: Halls
I have known some of these mega preachers and gone to some of their churches.

Many times against bible teachings they allow themselves to become the focus of the church and not God.

Here, is a little something that some of these mega preachers need to think about:

Taken from Halley's Bible Handbook

Warning Against Apostasy

Jude (vv.4-19) Recognizing The False Teachers

Leaders within the church:

"Godless men (v.4)
They change the grace of our God into a license for immorality (v.4)
They deny Jesus Christ (v.4)
Like Sodom they are given to sexual immorality (v.7)
They are dreamers who pollute their own bodies (v.8)
Like unreasoning animals they destroy themselves (v.10)
Blemishes at your love feasts (v.12)
Shepherds who feed only themselves (v.12)
Clouds without rain (v.12)
Trees without fruit (v.12)
Wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame (v.13)
Wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved (v.13)
Grumblers (v.16)
Faultfinders (v.16)
Boasting about themselves (v.16)
Scoffers who follow their own ungodly desires (v.18)
THEY FLATTER OTHERS FOR THEIR OWN ADVANTAGE (v.16)
They are people who divide you (v.19)"
139 posted on 11/23/2006 9:22:40 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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To: Halls

May I suggest the Catholic Church? It's full of sinners just like every other church, but we have the Cure for spritual sickness -- the actual Body and Blood of Jesus Christ.


155 posted on 11/26/2006 9:27:07 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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