Posted on 11/21/2006 7:14:00 PM PST by Coleus
I wonder how many of the humans on display as "ART" in Seattle right now are remnants of this? Pretty disgusting.
None. All of the people who have been displayed in exhibits have given signed consent forms. And I understand the lists are long of donors.
They are doing it for science. At one time even autopies were considered blasphemous. Let's not regress.
Like you said, it's china. Anything is a capital crime. Being a Christian, stealing bread, advocating freedom.
Are we to assume that the standard list of inhuman crimes doesn't occur in China? Murders, rapes, and tortures of all variety?
Pardon my frankness..... but WTF?????? So what if they salvage organs from the damned?
BFD.
So, given the statistics that end this article, it looks like China has cornered the market for organ sales, and has done that precisely by using the organs of executed prisoners. I was glad to see that article finally got around to dealing with the Falun Gong , who have been claiming for years that they have been targeted as a troublesome social group, imprisoned, then executed , and hey, since they're dead, let's get even for their lack of dedication to the Communist cause, and make a little money on their organs! For anyone in an official capacity in the Chinese Government, or the official Medical Establishment to make this kind of mea culpa admission of guilt or impropriety is highly suspect, as if there is something much bigger that is being headed off at the pass.
BTT
They're not salvaging them from the dead. They're killing Falun Gong and other political prisioners as necessary to get the organs.
It's a BFD.
Right....and you know that political prisoners are part and parcel of this system.
I'm sure that they would. Coming from the L.A. Times, I'm not so sure that they did.
Even less so with Amnesty International as a source.
“Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have.”
---Barry Goldwater
I worked with a woman who was trained as a doctor in China. All of the cadavers they dissected in med school were shot in the head. They couldn't study the brain very much for obvious reasons.
On the whole I find the concept very interesting, and if someone knows that their body will be used in such a manner - fine. Its the Chinese part that I have a problem with. And as the article states, not all were "donors". And even the "unclaimed" status is suspect being that they are from China.
From one of the local Washington rags:
The bodies in many of the exhibitions are primarily Chinese, bringing accusations that laws regulating cadaver use are more lax in China, and the bodies were obtained without consent or surreptitiously.
The lack of explicit consent has concerned some medial ethicists. ......
German newspaper Der Spiegel reported that some bodies used by "Body Worlds," which is not affiliated with the Seattle exhibition, used executed Chinese prisoners. German investigators, however, found no evidence to support those allegations.
All cadavers used for "Bodies" were legally obtained, and those of Chinese people — many of whom died from disease or natural causes — who were either unknown or had no families to claim their bodies when they died, Glover said.
I have heard that China keeps the prisoners, often political prisoners, alive until the end, so the organs will be fresh, and the prisoner is shaking with fear, knowing his fate.
An entire lifetime of 'getting it', but I have not seen this quote before. Wonderful, and thanks!
Larry Niven nailed it back in the 1970s, didn't he?
"it looks like China has cornered the market for organ sales, and has done that precisely by using the organs of executed prisoners."
China has also figured out how to play the capitalist game. These "executed" prisoners are worth more dead than alive. China does have something like 1.3 billion people.
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