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2 unrepentant about selling Katrina gift
Associated Press ^ | Nov. 21, 2006 | WOODY BAIRD

Posted on 11/21/2006 6:00:09 PM PST by Dubya

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To: grania
But, anyone who did anything had to realize that most people who lived in NO loved it there, and would return to that environment if they could.

Then they shouldn't have accepted the gift of a free house in Memphis and let someone who wanted to actually live in Memphis have it instead.

61 posted on 11/21/2006 8:10:43 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

I know, I'm talking about the moral aspect. If these two misrepresented themselves, that's wrong & probably actionable... but in general, there would be nothing morally wrong with Katrina victims selling a house they were given.


62 posted on 11/21/2006 8:10:51 PM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Sloth

If these two misrepresented themselves, that's wrong & probably actionable... but in general, there would be nothing morally wrong with Katrina victims selling a house they were given.
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There most certainly is something morally wrong, when it's obvious the thug couple knew the intention was for them to live in the house and they knew they had no intentions of living in the house.


63 posted on 11/21/2006 8:21:51 PM PST by singlemomofone
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To: Sloth

So in the future, don't give?
Is that your viewpoint?
Not that I disagree, just trying to clarify your position.


64 posted on 11/21/2006 8:23:07 PM PST by sarasmom (Bite me.! I will bite back.mAnd I will also bite before being bitten by you.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
I am so happy you specified them as being NOLA. I Live Northeast of NOLA and we were hit pretty darn bad. You don't,however, hear us whining and scamming everyone we can. And lets not forget that western LA was hit very hard by Rita.
65 posted on 11/21/2006 8:58:51 PM PST by BBell
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To: Dubya

The church made a mistake alot of people do. They gave the people a fish and did not teach them how to fish. They should have helped them by providing housing not giving them housing. Any honest person would not have taken the free home. They would have said No. But if you could provide housing till I get back on my feet I will much appreciate it and will pay you back. Have them sign on the dotted line. I will repeat. No honest person would accept the gift.


66 posted on 11/21/2006 9:00:51 PM PST by therut
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To: Dubya

Oooh...they ran the stop sign! LOL


67 posted on 11/21/2006 9:14:18 PM PST by TNdandelion
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To: NOLAlady

ping


68 posted on 11/22/2006 12:28:45 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Sloth
I know, I'm talking about the moral aspect. If these two misrepresented themselves, that's wrong & probably actionable... but in general, there would be nothing morally wrong with Katrina victims selling a house they were given.

From this thread:

Church members said they feel their generosity was abused by scam artists. They are no longer even sure that the couple were left homeless by Katrina or that they were a couple at all.

I know, "They came in humble like they really needed a new start, and our hearts went out to them," said Jean Phillips, a real estate agent and member of the Temple of Deliverance Church of God in Christ. "They actually begged for the home."


69 posted on 11/22/2006 1:34:21 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: singlemomofone

Learn to read.


70 posted on 11/22/2006 4:13:22 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: sarasmom
So in the future, don't give? Is that your viewpoint?

Not at all. The title of this thread is "2 Unrepentant About Selling Katrina Gift", as though that's the problem. What they did wrong was not selling the house, it was (seemingly) soliciting it under false pretenses in the first place.

71 posted on 11/22/2006 4:15:52 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Dubya
gave a $75,000 house, free and clear

Big mistake. If they'd asked the recipients to at least put in something, they might've gotten worthy recipients.

72 posted on 11/22/2006 4:18:00 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Son House

if people don't have to work to get something,

it won't be appreciated,

no matter how good the Churches 'intentions' were.



I couldn't agree more. I started a housing prison ministry teaching accountabilitly but a local church thought I was being greedy by charging rent so they started one with free rent. CAN'T COMPETE AGAINST FREE RENT AND CHEAP GRACE. I'm closing down.


73 posted on 11/22/2006 5:56:58 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the Truth here Folks.)
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To: MPJackal

If they did lie the Church members have some of the responsibility.

Two thoughts come to mind. "be wise as serpents" and "silver and gold have I none but what I have......"


74 posted on 11/22/2006 5:58:28 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the Truth here Folks.)
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To: Dubya

The revenge is the capital gains tax on a $88,000 profit! Their cost basis was zero, so the entire selling price will be taxed.


75 posted on 11/22/2006 6:00:25 AM PST by LetsRok
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To: MPJackal
Where does it say they lied? It says Church members "feel like it was a scam".

Could you come over and dice the onions for the stuffing. I like them diced very, very fine.

If they did lie the Church members have some of the responsibility. They should have verified before spending that much of the congregation's money.

Concur. But how much?

But either way, my point is that this was a selfless act.

You've made more points than that. (a) I haven't proved they lied and (b) the Church bears more responsibility than the couple.

And in that I am sure God is pleased.

Concur.

76 posted on 11/22/2006 9:38:16 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic is that the Free Clinic knows how to stop a leak.)
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To: LetsRok
The revenge is the capital gains tax on a $88,000 profit! Their cost basis was zero, so the entire selling price will be taxed.

LOL, that's great, because God could only sic the devil on you. We're talking here about the IRS...

77 posted on 11/22/2006 9:39:57 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic is that the Free Clinic knows how to stop a leak.)
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To: mewzilla
If they'd asked the recipients to at least put in something, they might've gotten worthy recipients.

Concur, and it didn't have to be much either.

In the consulting business, a lot of people look for free work with a hazy promise of future business. Ask for a little. If they'll do that, then they're usually telling the truth about future cooperation. If not, you know they're blowing smoke up your arse.

78 posted on 11/22/2006 9:43:03 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic is that the Free Clinic knows how to stop a leak.)
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