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DRUGSTORE COWBOYS : Why the Dems' Plan to Negotiate Drug Prices is a misguided
DALLAS MORNING NEWS EDITORIAL ^ | 11/21/2006

Posted on 11/21/2006 9:30:43 AM PST by SirLinksalot

Nancy Pelosi and her congressional Democrats have a winning sound bite when it comes to Medicare: Let the government negotiate drug prices for seniors. That way, elderly Americans can get cheaper medicine.

That's a tough argument for Republicans to go up against, especially since they just lost control of most everything there is to lose control of in Washington. Putting your party on the side of seniors is always better than appearing to defend the baddies in the drug industry.

But a fundamental point is at stake in this debate over influencing drug prices, one of the Democrats' first "100-hour" priorities for January.

Giving the feds the power to negotiate drug prices for seniors would effectively cede control of the pharmaceutical industry to Washington. While the government negotiates drug prices for Medicaid patients and veterans, the enormous Medicare portfolio of 39 million beneficiaries would give the bureaucracy a veto over drug companies.

That's more power than a domestic agency like the Department of Health and Human Services should possess, and President Bush is right to oppose it. We understand why the Pentagon should have such a say over defense contractors; that industry is vital to our national security. Drug companies don't rise to that threshold.

Better to let private insurance plans continue to negotiate prices. They haven't always been able to get the upper hand, but allowing the various players in the private sector to go head-to-head is better than government control. For instance, prices could go down if pharmaceutical companies were dealing with Washington, but so could profits set aside for research and development.

When congressional Democrats press for this change next year, remember they're pushing for much more than lower prices. They're seeking to move the line where government should stop and the marketplace should start.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cowboys; drugs; drugstore; price
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1 posted on 11/21/2006 9:30:44 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
Hitlery's greedy little paws are itching.

She get another shot at socialized medicine. And, if she does it, she at least gets a legacy and at most gets the Oval Office.

2 posted on 11/21/2006 9:33:35 AM PST by what's up
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Seems like I heard that one of the causes for the flu vaccine shortage (last year?) was that the federal government forced the vaccine makers to sell at a certain price...Not sure if that's accurate, but it certainly would cause a shortage.


3 posted on 11/21/2006 9:36:32 AM PST by opus86
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To: SirLinksalot
They're pushing for socialized medicine and this is the first foot in that door.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

4 posted on 11/21/2006 9:40:59 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: opus86

That used to cause lots of shortages in The CCCP as well. I wouldn't doubt it for one minute.


5 posted on 11/21/2006 9:41:37 AM PST by .cnI redruM (2008 is another day and another battle.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Hillary did that with vaccines under Bubba's presidency and look what that got us, shortages, higher prices and overseas suppliers.


6 posted on 11/21/2006 9:42:23 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic is that the Free Clinic knows how to stop a leak.)
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To: SirLinksalot

from article : " .... When congressional Democrats press for this change next year, remember they're pushing for much more than lower prices.... "

The Dems say they want lower prices, but then they are against walmart.

The Dems want it both ways, they want the spending for public education to go up, but then out of the other side of their mouth they say that working people need tax relief.

They simply do not understand economics.


7 posted on 11/21/2006 9:42:53 AM PST by TracyTucson (Teachers : Overpaid and Underworked........ Eliminate > ADA, EOE, NLRB, SS, DOE)
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To: SirLinksalot

Supply-demand curves respond to price, every time.

Reduce price, demand remains the same, supplies dry up.

Keep same price, demand rises, supplies STILL dry up.

Let price float, demand rises, supplies keep pace.

Supply grows too much, demand does not change, prices fall.

Supply remains the same, demand drops, prices fall.

Supply decreases, demand falls, price goes to float.

You want me to keep working this equation?


8 posted on 11/21/2006 9:45:21 AM PST by alloysteel (Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
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To: opus86
I beleive you are right & if there was an overstock on the meds- they had to dump the overburden and eat the loss- it's no wonder there aren't more flu shot manufacturers & we constantly face shortages- it's a lose lose situation for them-- Side note- My uncle in Canada was almost killed by socialized health care not once, not twice, but 3 times! We were preparing for a funeral 3 times because we didn't think he was going to make it

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

9 posted on 11/21/2006 9:52:31 AM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: opus86
Seems like I heard that one of the causes for the flu vaccine shortage (last year?) was that the federal government forced the vaccine makers to sell at a certain price...Not sure if that's accurate, but it certainly would cause a shortage.

....or a surplus. Price controls remove the governing mechanism on supply and demand of a free pricing system.

10 posted on 11/21/2006 9:54:55 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: CottShop

Found this at the National Center for Policy Analysis (?)...Not familiar with them, but the article is interesting.

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba493/


11 posted on 11/21/2006 9:56:57 AM PST by opus86
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To: SirLinksalot
Better to let private insurance plans continue to negotiate prices. They haven't always been able to get the upper hand, but allowing the various players in the private sector to go head-to-head is better than government control.

I'm not convinced for one simple reason. It hasn't worked yet.

It's been said that the definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing and expecting a different result.
12 posted on 11/21/2006 9:57:09 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GO BUCKS 12-0)
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To: SirLinksalot

How has having the government involved ever lowered prices?


13 posted on 11/21/2006 10:02:16 AM PST by G-Bear (Religeously, five times a day, I turn my back on Mecca and fart!)
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To: alloysteel

What if the drug companies refuse to negotiate?

My guess is the price would go up. My guess is this will cause the prices to go up, just because the government is meddling in private business.


14 posted on 11/21/2006 10:02:20 AM PST by IamConservative (A mans true character is revealed in what he does when no one is watching.)
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To: opus86

Good article- that pretty much sums up why flu vaccine makers have dropped out of hte race- this is a scarey scarey deal because as th4e article mentions, if they get the strain of flu wrong when making the vaccines, there are NO backup companies to rely on and millions of 'at risk' individuals (elderly, Chronically sick, children) are then at risk of dying from somethign that could have been easily prevented!


15 posted on 11/21/2006 10:02:44 AM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: SirLinksalot

As with every plan, the devil's in the details. What is meant by Government "negotiating", a little friendly "jaw-boning", or some sort of threat? Do "lower drug prices for seniors" mean that the drug companies will be encouraged to recoup their profits by raising drug prices on "non-seniors"? Are we really talking about price controls under an assumed name? In any event, if the GOP stands in opposition to this, they'd better know what they're talking about, and they'd better have the "Harry and Louise" ads on the air when votes are taken.


16 posted on 11/21/2006 10:04:58 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: SirLinksalot; Pharmboy

I think European's are free riding on US pharmaceutical advances. They let the US companies devlelope drugs, then they force those companies to discount their drugs in their countries. One of the reasons people are living longer and healthier lives these days is due to the advances in pharmacueticals. Drugs don't just grow on trees. They require hundreds of millions of dollars each in research to get to the market. If the economic rewards are cut for developing them, there will be fewer new drugs on the market in the future. Why should bright students spend ten years in college getting Phd's if the payoff is going to be radically decreased? It's a lot easier just to go to law school and become an ambulance chaser.


17 posted on 11/21/2006 10:06:51 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: SirLinksalot
It is not wise to have the bureaucrats provide your medical care. Government supplied medicine will always go for the old lower cost ineffective drugs. Anything new and effective will always be more expensive.
18 posted on 11/21/2006 10:16:41 AM PST by Western Phil
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To: pawdoggie
IIRC the language of the bill said something like this.
If you sell this drug to anyone else the government can't be charged more than they charge to a third party.
19 posted on 11/21/2006 10:25:38 AM PST by grjr21
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yep--you're right. The US consumer (and to a lesser extant, the Japanese consumer) has been subsidizing drug development for the world since the Euros imposed price controls (managed care in this country has been a de facto sort of price controls, but it is easier for the pharma companies to negotiate with industry rather than the gummint). This holds true even if a drug is not developed over here (the Japanese have brought forth a significant number of blockbusters over the last 20 years, but license them to American companies).


20 posted on 11/21/2006 10:29:00 AM PST by Pharmboy (Tagline on vacation)
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